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PostSubject: The Celibate system   The Celibate system EmptySun Dec 18, 2016 7:28 am

Does anyone know how to race cocks on the Celibate System?

It looks like we are going to end up with about 15 racing cocks and only 8 racing hens! (not stock birds).

Hal had the idea of putting one or two spare cocks in with the rest of the racing couples, to gee them up a bit. But surely not whilst they are trying to pair and bring up youngsters.

In the cocks section of our new racing loft, I have 12 widowhood type nest boxes. Every one has a cock in it right now. BUT - it looks like up-to THREE of the birds we thought were hens are turning into COCKS!

I half expected some trouble as we did not start breeding until Mid April, as we were very late getting our stock birds, but I am surprised how unevenly the sexes have worked out.

Is there a reason or a set of circumstances whereby more of one sex are produced during a breeding season? For example, weather conditions.

If you can answer this question, and/or know anything about how to race cocks on the celibate system, can you please let me know!

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PostSubject: Re: The Celibate system   The Celibate system EmptySun Dec 18, 2016 11:28 am

have same problem phil, bred 26 y\b and 17 are hens, moving some stock cocks down and going to use trappers(fantails) as they are both cocks, haven't a clue on celibate but I see hal has given you some good links atb
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PostSubject: Re: The Celibate system   The Celibate system EmptySun Dec 18, 2016 8:12 pm

blueskylofts wrote:
Does anyone know how to race cocks on the Celibate System?

It looks like we are going to end up with about 15 racing cocks and only 8 racing hens!  (not stock birds).

Hal had the idea of putting one or two spare cocks in with the rest of the racing couples, to gee them up a bit.  But surely not whilst they are trying to pair and bring up youngsters.

In the cocks section of our new racing loft, I have 12 widowhood type nest boxes.  Every one has a cock in it right now.  BUT - it looks like up-to THREE of the birds we thought were hens are turning into COCKS!

I half expected some trouble as we did not start breeding until Mid April, as we were very late getting our stock birds, but I am surprised how unevenly the sexes have worked out.

Is there a reason or a set of circumstances whereby more of one sex are produced during a breeding season?  For example, weather conditions.

If you can answer this question, and/or know anything about how to race cocks on the celibate system, can you please let me know!

Phil

Phil if I was you I would pair 2 cocks to 1 hen but were you have a normal box the type of box to use will be like 3 boxes with the middle section were the hen and bowl is but the cock can enter the centre box from either the left side box or the right side box
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PostSubject: Re: The Celibate system   The Celibate system EmptyMon Dec 19, 2016 6:55 am

Don Webb wrote:
blueskylofts wrote:
Does anyone know how to race cocks on the Celibate System?

It looks like we are going to end up with about 15 racing cocks and only 8 racing hens!  (not stock birds).

Hal had the idea of putting one or two spare cocks in with the rest of the racing couples, to gee them up a bit.  But surely not whilst they are trying to pair and bring up youngsters.

In the cocks section of our new racing loft, I have 12 widowhood type nest boxes.  Every one has a cock in it right now.  BUT - it looks like up-to THREE of the birds we thought were hens are turning into COCKS!

I half expected some trouble as we did not start breeding until Mid April, as we were very late getting our stock birds, but I am surprised how unevenly the sexes have worked out.

Is there a reason or a set of circumstances whereby more of one sex are produced during a breeding season?  For example, weather conditions.

If you can answer this question, and/or know anything about how to race cocks on the celibate system, can you please let me know!

Phil

Phil if I was you I would pair 2 cocks to 1 hen  but were you have a normal box the type of box to use will be like 3 boxes with the middle section were the hen and bowl is but the cock can enter the centre box from either the left side box or the right side box  


Hi Don,

Can you elaborate a bit more please. Our problems is we only have room for 12 'widowhood' type nest boxes in the section. I do have two more complete nest boxes I made in the summer, but that are one-on-top of the other, not side by side.

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PostSubject: Re: The Celibate system   The Celibate system EmptyMon Dec 19, 2016 9:09 am

If you have room for spare cocks just use the hens you have ..instead of locking them up together on a Friday just put the hens in one end at a time for a few mins before basketing. Fresh hens will show to anything .or even just give the spares a bowl without a hen .just let them see a hen on return if that's possible...I hope you understand what I am saying
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PostSubject: Re: The Celibate system   The Celibate system EmptyMon Dec 19, 2016 9:38 am

I know a guy who does very well he just puts a dozen hens in with his cocks he don't even box them just lets them mix in the section he calls it the chaos system lol! lol! lol! the staddon bros do this too their results are not to shabby in the bicc and woesr combine
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