Forum for Pigeon Fanciers
 
HomeHome  PortalPortal  GalleryGallery  Latest imagesLatest images  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log in  Report a StrayReport a Stray  Face BookFace Book  Jack Barkel Website.Jack Barkel Website.  Friendslofts WebsiteFriendslofts Website  Velocity CalculatorVelocity Calculator  Portal 2Portal 2  ebayebay  
Latest topics
» Good Morning
Natural system Emptyby George & Morgan Today at 6:10 am

» sorting birds out
Natural system Emptyby David Yesterday at 11:33 am

» Weather today
Natural system Emptyby David Yesterday at 11:30 am

» new rules from Defra
Natural system Emptyby David Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:30 pm

» RPRA Auction ........
Natural system Emptyby David Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:40 pm

» overnight and multiple nights basket
Natural system Emptyby Knackered Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:21 pm

» Loft Location
Natural system Emptyby David Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:43 pm

» RPRA , WHAT DO THEY DO ?
Natural system Emptyby David Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:43 am

» RPRA Auction
Natural system Emptyby David Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:04 pm

Countrywide Corns
Forum Syndicate 2019
Pigeon World Forum Syndicate Bird takes 44th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final.The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain)
Forum Syndicate 2019
Pigeon World Forum Syndicate also takes 100th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final. The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain) Natural system 20497337-174028
Who is online?
In total there are 29 users online :: 0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 29 Guests :: 2 Bots

None

Most users ever online was 833 on Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:30 pm
Forum Syndicate 2017
Pigeon World Syndicate Bird takes 81st Place in the 2017 Final Race, The Bird is Dia Evans Bloodlines and was Bred and supplied by Tumley Lofts Stud.
R.P.R.A Certificate.
Pigeon World Forum Syndicate take 81st Place in the 2017 R.P.R.A. Final, with a Pigeon Bred and Supplied by Tumley Lofts Stud.Natural system Resise10
Top posting users this week
George & Morgan
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
David
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
Knackered
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
oldstrain
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
barnie
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
Similar topics
Statistics
We have 1293 registered users
The newest registered user is Meddy78

Our users have posted a total of 221949 messages in 13972 subjects
Log in
Username:
Password:
Log in automatically: 
:: I forgot my password
Oldstrain/Darren`s Winner of winners. 2012.
Natural system Winnerofwin
From Fed Topper to Master Chef
Natural system Raypeel-1The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
Top posters
David
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
oldstrain
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
Don Webb
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
Knackered
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
peel bros
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
IANYOUNG
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
MISTY
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
George & Morgan
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
Gaz b
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 
birdy2011
Natural system Vote_lcapNatural system Voting_barNatural system Vote_rcap 

 

 Natural system

Go down 
+6
David
Don Webb
halcanada
markevans
oldstrain
Boosey
10 posters
AuthorMessage
Boosey
Youngbird
Youngbird
Boosey


Posts : 2064
Join date : 2013-08-09
Age : 52
Location : Basildon, Essex

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Natural system   Natural system EmptyTue Jan 03, 2017 8:52 pm

Does anyone on here race natural competitively through the card sprint and long distance.

I'm seriously considering opening the front of my loft up and racing natural.
But I would never race pigeons home to nestlings and then dispose of them.

I like my birds to be happy around the loft, racing natural could suite me as I can train regularly because I'm a white van man and deliver along the line of flight.

Jo Cuthbert the BHW scribe seems to do very well racing natural.
Back to top Go down
oldstrain
Oldbird
Oldbird
oldstrain


Posts : 16269
Join date : 2011-01-03
Location : the magic roundabout

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyTue Jan 03, 2017 9:04 pm

all systems seem to work at times m8 ...i know guys doing well on natural i don't like the mess and prefer a bit of a routine if i am honest but i will let darkness ybs pair and race them on pot eggs ...atb
Back to top Go down
markevans
Youngbird
Youngbird
markevans


Posts : 3310
Join date : 2015-01-25
Age : 58
Location : Wolverhampton

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyTue Jan 03, 2017 9:08 pm

Boosey I race natural one season and round about the next we send both cocks and hens on the same day to the same race with no problem from 83 to 332 and 440 mls when the fed goes that far only on pot eggs never sent feeding and taking the first 3/4/ or 5 places racing against widow hood flyer's so yes it is OK but you must train regular
Back to top Go down
Boosey
Youngbird
Youngbird
Boosey


Posts : 2064
Join date : 2013-08-09
Age : 52
Location : Basildon, Essex

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyTue Jan 03, 2017 9:17 pm

Why do you alternate between natural and roundabout Mark.
Back to top Go down
markevans
Youngbird
Youngbird
markevans


Posts : 3310
Join date : 2015-01-25
Age : 58
Location : Wolverhampton

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyTue Jan 03, 2017 10:49 pm

It just depends on how many hens I have at the end of the season old and Young if only 24/25 hens its round about hens stay with Young birds if it's more its natural and surplus hens stay with young birds that's all
Back to top Go down
Boosey
Youngbird
Youngbird
Boosey


Posts : 2064
Join date : 2013-08-09
Age : 52
Location : Basildon, Essex

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyTue Jan 03, 2017 10:57 pm

Cheers Mark, I've got no stock and have to breed from my racers, if you were to fly natural when would you pair them up, and do they hold their flights for the later distance races.
Back to top Go down
halcanada
Youngbird
Youngbird
halcanada


Posts : 4206
Join date : 2014-03-11
Age : 84
Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyWed Jan 04, 2017 1:51 pm

Natural birds take a lot f work. Attention to detail as regards nest position, days sitting etc,. 2 or 3 times a season they will score well. Widowhood, cocks or hens or dual will score more consistently and are usually in shape 90% of the time. Less work also.
Back to top Go down
Don Webb
Oldbird
Oldbird
Don Webb


Posts : 14926
Join date : 2009-03-27
Age : 51
Location : Tipton

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyWed Jan 04, 2017 11:31 pm

markevans wrote:
Boosey I race natural one season and round about the next we send both cocks and hens on the same day to the same race with no problem from 83 to 332 and 440 mls when the fed goes that far only on pot eggs never sent feeding and taking the first 3/4/ or 5 places racing against widow hood flyer's so yes it is OK but you must train regular

Will second that Mark

Naturals need loads of road work
Back to top Go down
Don Webb
Oldbird
Oldbird
Don Webb


Posts : 14926
Join date : 2009-03-27
Age : 51
Location : Tipton

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyWed Jan 04, 2017 11:37 pm

Boosey wrote:
Does anyone on here race natural competitively through the card sprint and long distance.

I'm seriously considering opening the front of my loft up and racing natural.
But I would never race pigeons home to nestlings and then dispose of them.

I like my birds to be happy around the loft, racing natural could suite me as I can train regularly because I'm a white van man and deliver along the line of flight.

Jo Cuthbert the BHW scribe seems to do very well racing natural.

Boosey the one thing I would say is if you have 16 pairs try pairing 4 pairs first then 2 weeks later another 4 pairs and so on once they are all paired up

By doing that you have your pigeons at different stages of motivation
Back to top Go down
David
Oldbird
Oldbird
David


Posts : 42962
Join date : 2009-03-18
Location : Leeds

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyThu Jan 05, 2017 12:25 pm

halcanada wrote:
Natural birds take a lot f work. Attention to detail as regards nest position, days sitting etc,. 2 or 3 times a season they will score well. Widowhood, cocks or hens or dual will score more consistently and are usually in shape 90% of the time. Less work also.


I agree there hal, more work involved with natural, plus getting the right conditions for the birds to perform well has to be just right, if it was me natural would be too much, widowhood for me would be a lot easier.....
Back to top Go down
halcanada
Youngbird
Youngbird
halcanada


Posts : 4206
Join date : 2014-03-11
Age : 84
Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyThu Jan 05, 2017 2:54 pm

Have won to 600 miles natural and many shorter ones. However, will race widowhood this year for the first time.
Back to top Go down
peel bros
Oldbird
Oldbird
peel bros


Posts : 13064
Join date : 2009-03-27
Age : 59
Location : south shields

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyFri Jan 06, 2017 8:42 am

Natural for us on the longer races
Back to top Go down
Mick
Hatchling
Hatchling
Mick


Posts : 600
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 45
Location : south shields

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptyFri Jan 06, 2017 11:39 pm

I've never flew natural but Gona try it this year with work and also having 26 cocks and only 12 hens I'm going 2 have 2 pair some cocks to stock hens and keep them natural
Back to top Go down
Knackered
Oldbird
Oldbird
Knackered


Posts : 14379
Join date : 2013-03-11

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptySat Jan 07, 2017 1:23 am

Mick wrote:
I've never flew natural but Gona try it this year with work and also having 26 cocks and only 12 hens I'm going 2 have 2 pair some cocks to stock hens and keep them natural
Could be OK Mick, more than one way to skin a cat etc "Smile, smile". Just don't tell though that other South Shields lad here what your up to as such. Cheer's.
Back to top Go down
blueskylofts
Youngbird
Youngbird
blueskylofts


Posts : 1756
Join date : 2016-02-28
Age : 69
Location : Glos - South West England

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptySat Jan 07, 2017 6:34 am

When we raced before a few years ago - we race totally Natural - short medium and long races.

The trick is getting your birds to the right condition/state of egg/ babies etc, that suits the particular bird.

A lot of birds will do their best when they are sitting on 10 day old eggs - others fly best with a 5 day old baby.

The real way to win using the natural system is to tune yourself into what condition each pair of your birds fly best at!

We used to run something called "The Natural Flyers Club" way back in the day and had members from all over England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland.

If I can be of any further help, drop me a PM or email me at blueskylofts@yahoo.com

ATB
Phil
Back to top Go down
http://www.philongold.net
oldstrain
Oldbird
Oldbird
oldstrain


Posts : 16269
Join date : 2011-01-03
Location : the magic roundabout

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptySat Jan 07, 2017 9:38 am

well done phil great to see members offering help
Back to top Go down
peel bros
Oldbird
Oldbird
peel bros


Posts : 13064
Join date : 2009-03-27
Age : 59
Location : south shields

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptySat Jan 07, 2017 4:18 pm

The thing with natural is getting right where as widowhood or roundabout it's a lot easier and less hassle. ..I think natural is a art that's why most look for the easier option including me
Back to top Go down
markevans
Youngbird
Youngbird
markevans


Posts : 3310
Join date : 2015-01-25
Age : 58
Location : Wolverhampton

Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system EmptySat Jan 07, 2017 5:59 pm

Their is a nak to it and it is more hard work as the birds don't want to exercise and need to be trained more often but you do have benefit of a bigger team as you do with round about but the problem is too many birds in one section if your sections are not very large which causes health issues
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





Natural system Empty
PostSubject: Re: Natural system   Natural system Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Natural system
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Natural Iron
» natural...
» Natural ways.

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Racing Pigeons,Show & Fancy Pigeons :: General Pigeon News :: Weather-
Jump to: