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PostSubject: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:19 pm

As you may know - we bought a new young bird loft from those sh''ts at Ecco lofts around April last year.

We have had endless troubles with it and now we have another one.

Every time it rains hard and blows a bit, we end up with damp inside the loft - in both sections.

The back of the loft faces the weather and somehow the rain must be getting in between the tongue and groove planks.

I have tried running mastic into the joints but that has not worked.

Any ideas on how to fix it permanently?

I thought I might have to clad the whole of the back of the loft in another layer of planking. But that is going to be really expensive, especially over here.

Over to you guys and ladies.

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:29 pm

you could felt the back phil or similar material or clad... ecco got a lot to answer for i received a e-mail from a guy who they had over thing is you can always pay them a visit at the shows or pop into their yard, one day these people will upset the wrong guy the way they treat their customers is disgusting i have first hand experience of their handywork to atb phil and hil
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:40 pm

I would just put 1/4 ply on it myself
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:55 pm

Heard of lads mixing water based wood preservative with pva glue 50/50 and few coats thickened on the wood. If doing this I'd just do a small patch first, see how it works.
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:58 pm

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you could felt the back phil or similar material or clad... ecco got a lot to answer for i received a e-mail from a guy who they had over thing is you can always pay them a visit at the shows or pop into their yard, one day these people will upset the wrong guy the way they treat their customers is disgusting i have first hand experience of their handywork to atb phil and hil

Darren - I could always visit them at Blackpool or pop into their yard - do you think I could tap them up for the ferry fare lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:00 pm

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I would just put 1/4 ply on it myself

Ray - if you knew how much 2 sheets of good quality 1/4 inch ply would cost over here, you would have kittens! You could almost buy a quarter of a loft for the price of 2 sheets of ply in France. For example, one sheet of exterior quality ply 12 mm costs around 120 pounds. Don't ask me why.

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:01 pm

surely a private jet Razz lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:01 pm

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Heard of lads mixing water based wood preservative with pva glue 50/50 and few coats thickened on the wood. If doing this I'd just do a small patch first, see how it works.

Thanks Barnie. Your idea may well be worth a punt. I think I have half a litre of pva glue somewhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:19 pm

Hi phil i wood use a wood sealer give it 2 coats and that should sort it out as the sealer will go right into the joints. Hope this helps Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:34 pm

roofing felt the back, problem sorted........
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:35 pm

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Hi phil i wood use a wood sealer give it  2 coats and that should sort it out as the sealer will go right into the joints. Hope this helps Very Happy Very Happy

Cheers everybody - if and when we get a dry day - I will try the glue and wood sealer thing.

I have both in stock - so nothing to lose.

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:42 pm

I would felt the back
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:52 pm

All in all - I think the felt idea is the best.

I could paint the back of the loft with glue and wood sealer, but I will only know if it worked when it rains again and I end up with a damp loft.

The felt way CAN'T fail as long as I do it properly.

Also a roll of felt is much cheaper than sheets of ply or planks of wood.

Thank everyone and have a great weekend.

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:31 pm

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I would just put 1/4 ply on it myself

Ray - if you knew how much 2 sheets of good quality 1/4 inch ply would cost over here, you would have kittens!  You could almost buy a quarter of a loft for the price of 2 sheets of ply in France.  For example, one sheet of exterior quality ply 12 mm costs around 120 pounds.  Don't ask me why.


Forget that then phil
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:30 pm

If you can get them Phil try galvanized tin sheet's
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:02 pm

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If you can get them Phil try galvanized tin sheet's

NO Chance Mark. - Also far too hot in the summer.

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:51 am

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If you can get them Phil try galvanized tin sheet's
That's what most use here Mark etc & if one places a good aluminium foil under the sheets all the better. Thou I must say "smile, smile" the man I toss with doesn't worry about the foil as such & he is an absolute wizard with his results. Cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:19 pm

Plywood here. 4 x 8 feet. quarter inch $15. Half inch $20. 1 x 4 16 feet $2.
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:47 pm

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Plywood here. 4 x 8 feet. quarter inch $15. Half inch $20. 1 x 4 16 feet $2.

great prices them hal
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:51 pm

I bought a roll of quality felt today and will put it up tomorrow - weather permitting.

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:08 pm

I doubt you need reminding phil, but start at the bottom and go across overlapping each strip.......
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:24 pm

David wrote:
I doubt you need reminding phil, but start at the bottom and go across overlapping each strip.......

Thanks David - but yes- I do know!

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:47 pm

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I doubt you need reminding phil, but start at the bottom and go across overlapping each strip.......
Laugh, laugh. "Smile, smile". Cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:30 am

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David wrote:
I doubt you need reminding phil, but start at the bottom and go across overlapping each strip.......

Thanks David - but yes- I do know!

Phil

Maybe I could start a new trend and do it all diagonally - lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Anybody good with wood   Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:17 am

you be surprised at some of the sites I have seen.... patchwork felt put up vertically Razz
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