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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:05 pm

I am giving Versele Laga Junior O, no maize with about 20% Gerry Plus at the moment.

I feed 35 grams per bird/per day - 40% of that in the morning and 60% at night.

What do you guys think. I don't think it is too much, because they are always hungry - but it might be the wrong balance of foods.

The young birds are not thin or too fat, and I just about have them under control as far getting them in for their food is concerned. I want them to grow well without being held back, but I do want them to come in when I ask them to.

It's all a question of balance I guess.

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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:41 pm

initially when weaning I give plenty of food, then as they get stronger on the wing and ready to go out I cut the food down so as to have more control over them.......once they are exercising round the loft I feed one oz per bird per day, bringing it back up to around one and a quarter oz when training/racing.
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:29 pm

I give plenty of tic beans when weaning
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:53 pm

Breed and wean for ours,we have 45 up till now
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:12 am

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I am giving Versele Laga Junior O, no maize with about 20% Gerry Plus at the moment.

I feed 35 grams per bird/per day - 40% of that in the morning and 60% at night.

What do you guys think.  I don't think it is too much, because they are always hungry - but it might be the wrong balance of foods.

The young birds are not thin or too fat, and I just about have them under control as far getting them in for their food is concerned.  I want them to grow well without being held back, but I do want them to come in when I ask them to.

It's all a question of balance I guess.

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No one answer Phil Smile Smile Couldn't get mine to eat 35grams etc even  if I threatened them with the pirat plank trick Wink Wink.
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:23 am

Would not know. Never measured it that low. Full coffee can or less depends on the birds and their antics..
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:26 am

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I feed 50% Mariman young bird no mazie and 50% wheat and 630 g for 18 birds

That is 35 grams per bird per day - the same as I feed phil114.

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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:39 am

I have a small element of barley in mymix ,its a great regulator of feed as its the first grain they leave ...when ybs are on the dark remember they are moulting and need protein but not too much ,we feed 28 grams per bird 1 feed that's it until total control of ybs trapping then I introduce a morning treat after exercise
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:29 am

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I feed 50% Mariman young bird no mazie and 50% wheat and 630 g for 18 birds

That is 35 grams per bird per day - the same as I feed phil114.

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We know pigeons will eat just about anything etc Phil Smile Smile 50% wheat worries me a wee bit Wink Wink especially if one is going down the distance trail.  cheers
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:03 am

To save confusion (mainly my confusion) - if you are talking to me - Phil from Blue Sky Loft, can we use Phil and if you are talking to or about the other Phil - Can we use Phil114 please.

I also think 50% wheat is too much - Phil114

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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:16 pm

we had the last of our imports from leeds today ...bloody hooligans they are lol! lol! lol! 4 more beauties from david ....thanks very much m8 Wink that's 23 ybs now and another 6 to wean and 1 pair of specials about to hatch ...should have a full loft this year about 30 ybs cheers
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:23 pm

Your mobbing it this year Darren
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:35 am

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To save confusion (mainly my confusion) - if you are talking to me - Phil from Blue Sky Loft, can we use Phil and if you are talking to or about the other Phil - Can we use Phil114 please.

I also think 50% wheat is too much - Phil114

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Chastised again here lol! lol! lol!  Smile Smile Sin bin time for this little duck I suspect Wink Wink.
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:32 am

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To save confusion (mainly my confusion) - if you are talking to me - Phil from Blue Sky Loft, can we use Phil and if you are talking to or about the other Phil - Can we use Phil114 please.

I also think 50% wheat is too much - Phil114

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Chastised again here lol! lol! lol!  Smile Smile Sin bin time for this little duck I suspect Wink Wink.
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NO no Knackered - no need to go in the sin bin - just a little clarification, that is all.

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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:21 am

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Your mobbing it this year Darren

I know steve ...get me 30 ybs biggest team I have had since 2011 ...it is mob flying for me lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:45 am

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To save confusion (mainly my confusion) - if you are talking to me - Phil from Blue Sky Loft, can we use Phil and if you are talking to or about the other Phil - Can we use Phil114 please.

I also think 50% wheat is too much - Phil114

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Chastised again here lol! lol! lol!  Smile Smile Sin bin time for this little duck I suspect Wink Wink.
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NO no Knackered - no need to go in the sin bin - just a little clarification, that is all.

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No big deal for me Phil Wink Wink "Sin bin time" lol! lol! lol! as I spent half of my school years there etc  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes sadly.
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:45 am

Well, wonder of wonders - I think my young birds must have read Phil114's posting about his birds flying for an hour or more - because, this morning my y/b's flew for 58 minutes, non-stop. Normally they will fly for 30 - 40 mins then come down, but this morning they just kept going, flying this way then that. I think they must be thinking about 'ranging'.

I hope they get a few ranging times in before they start moulting. Already, there are a few feathers on the loft floor, morning and afternoon, and they are not down feathers.

But I think our racing birds are getting a bit fitter, they have started shedding down feathers in the past week or so. I have always taken the dropping of 'down' feathers as a sign of birds getting fiter, or at least healthy.

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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:19 pm

Look's like everyone's doing well with this years breeding and will have plenty of young birds to go at well done
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:57 pm

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If want them flying try giving them a bit of wheat 20. Mins before you let out
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PostSubject: Re: hows members ybs   Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:43 pm

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If want them flying try giving them a bit of wheat 20. Mins before you let out


Thanks Phil114 - I might try that.

How much wheat per bird should I give?

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