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redrog Youngbird
Posts : 2277 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 67 Location : rhos, wrexham
| Subject: flashing lights Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:49 pm | |
| anyone tried these lights for deterring sparrow hawk, just picked bird up from jeff Kirkland he says it works well for him, more or less like road works lights |
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fieldwalker Youngbird
Posts : 1857 Join date : 2011-10-01 Age : 63 Location : BOLDON COLLIERY TYNE&WEAR
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:52 pm | |
| Ask Ray when hes on i know a couple of fanciers in his club use them |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:02 pm | |
| ive a couple of mirrors I put out when the birds are out rog, I reckon it flashes in the sun, and the hawks don't like it.
heard of the flashing lights though, and for those who use them they say it does work, so anything that seems to work is worth doing in my opinion. |
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redrog Youngbird
Posts : 2277 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 67 Location : rhos, wrexham
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:09 pm | |
| good enough, haven't got bollox to shoot it so going to give them a go. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:35 pm | |
| I always have my loaded air rifle by me when mine are out, I know theres very little chance of getting them because they are that quick, but just in case the chance arises I`m ready |
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redrog Youngbird
Posts : 2277 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 67 Location : rhos, wrexham
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:40 pm | |
| same here david, sit there like a redneck on the porch but i know when red mist goes so does my bottle, killing days behind me, seemed to have mellowed with age |
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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:42 pm | |
| Never seen these lights or anyone using them but will have a look around for them try anything IG it works |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:49 pm | |
| The idea of using flashing lights, disks, mirrors, dummy owls etc; was mooted many years ago, some say they were successful others not.
Choose what you use the raptors will eventually work out that they are harmless to them.
When one of the raptors meets it's end within a very short time another takes it's place, I doubt if there is enough lead to get rid of them all.
I am afraid the raptor problem cannot be solved it is how the sport decides to deal with it as a matter of fact that will be the deciding factor.
Regards.
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:39 am | |
| Misty agree with you! 100%! That has to be a first! I have tried all you mentioned. Plus playing the call of an Eagle Owl. Plus animal marker spray across the white rump of pigeons. My solution? Only way I can go is to let young out in to the aviary to observe their surroundings and take note of hawk attacks on the wild birds I feed and feral pigeons in the open shed. The smarter ones absorb what they see and can use it to good use when let out to fly. As stated have YB's hatched last week of December only been out 3 times. Others born since then (2 weaned today) Weather. Should be good enough tomorrow to let out. Lose some? So be it. Usually do but very few. Usually younger ones. If the local hawk knows that after a few attempts at not catching many they tend to go elsewhere. Bird feeder or whatever. They will soon have young to feed. Hawks, raptors. So obviously they will go for the easiest source of food. Smarter young pigeons adapt. |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:23 am | |
| If everyone agreed with each other there would be no point in discussing anything.
I always had completely open loft and always felt that the pigeons learned self preservation, rain, shine, thunder, made no difference to them they went out when they saw fit.
Also having young and old together all the time the young went out when they saw fit and not when I thought they should.
For many I years had no raptor problem at all whilst those on the nearby allotments were having their share.
Then the sparrow hawks started taking my pigeons from the air and not as usual from the ground in most instances in others fanciers cases .
When I had to get let my pigeons go the count was eventually evens, four to them and four to me but I feel my problem would have got worse and become a real problem.
I just wish there was a feasible solution but I cannot think of one.
Regards.
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:28 am | |
| Yes we use them all..the owls have to be moved about, I got a few lads them but they don't move them around the garden then they whinge they are no good..we use the cds as well all over our garden as well but the best deterrent me use when we can is , one of us stands in the garden when birds are out and so far haven't been hit but that might be just luck |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43288 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:45 am | |
| my birds are never out on their own, especially the ybs.........I`m always stood with them while they are not flying, once they land im over to them. I know a pigeon man who was stood watching his pigeons, and a hawk shot past him, wings virtually touching him as it passed........went straight through the open door into the loft after the pigeons. |
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redrog Youngbird
Posts : 2277 Join date : 2012-12-02 Age : 67 Location : rhos, wrexham
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:20 am | |
| biggest problem is next door but one have a 50yd row of 60' conifers the hawk comes out of them doing warp factor 7, don't see it till its on you, lights are going up next week so hey ho. Bloke up the road had kitchen door open, y/b went up, one flew straight into kitchen with sparrow hawk hot on its tail, f------- mayhem for 15mins |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16309 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:44 pm | |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:55 am | |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:19 am | |
| See!! They are telling you to feed the pigeons better!! |
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fieldwalker Youngbird
Posts : 1857 Join date : 2011-10-01 Age : 63 Location : BOLDON COLLIERY TYNE&WEAR
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: flashing lights Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:51 am | |
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