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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Crop yeast Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:09 pm | |
| Been having a problem with this with a couple of young birds not the same ones keeps recurring what do members use for this |
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barnie Youngbird
Posts : 3193 Join date : 2012-07-25
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:03 pm | |
| Mark have a look at Campden tablets used in making wine, cheap as chips ,can't remember dosage so look into it before deciding yourself. 1/4 tab down hatch rings a bell, but they also dissolve in drinker please check first! |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:03 am | |
| - barnie wrote:
- Mark have a look at Campden tablets used in making wine, cheap as chips ,can't remember dosage so look into it before deciding yourself. 1/4 tab down hatch rings a bell, but they also dissolve in drinker please check first!
Same, same or similar maybe   to some thing I have here Barnie etc . it's called Sodium Benzoate powder, which is used in the wine industry as such also & has been of use by me at times when having an issue like Mark appears to have there. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:30 am | |
| had same problem with a hen not so long ago and gave charcoal tablets 2 times a day for 3 days also avidress in the water ...fennel tea is another option have heard about the wine stabiliser but the above has always sorted it for me I always have black mineral down ok it has to be changed in damp weather frequently but seems to keep things ticking over nicely for the breeders and ybs atb |
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barnie Youngbird
Posts : 3193 Join date : 2012-07-25
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:56 am | |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:45 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:18 pm | |
| whats the symptoms mark...? |
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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:29 pm | |
| The young birds one or two hold corn over night and through the day and are usually a little quiet then they seem to get over it and another one or maybe two go down with it no vomiting or runny droppings and none of them have sour crop like young bird sickness so I think it might be a crop imbalance |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:39 pm | |
| kilpatricks black minerals ad lib is all that's required it contains charcoal and iodine I swear by it but they need access 24/7 then these things rarely arise for those showing signs at present I would give a few charcoal tablets atb |
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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:46 pm | |
| Thanks daz I will try and get some tomorrow when I go and get my corn got avidress in the water every day |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:19 pm | |
| Agree with oldstrain, always had black minerals or fine coal dust available that dealt with many digestive issues etc; if they ever arose because I never had any.
I believe the black minerals were in fact manufactured from the washings from the coal when making coalite.
Just as all the dusting powders etc; are made from lime in my opinion but just dressed up.
Regards.
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:24 pm | |
| - markevans wrote:
- Thanks daz I will try and get some tomorrow when I go and get my corn got avidress in the water every day
get um from boots for 1/3rd the price m8 pop 2 into them right away |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:40 pm | |
| I give black minerals every day 365 days a year......... |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:31 am | |
| Never had them. But again, my birds are basically ground pickers. Turf in the stock loft occasionally. Not feasible for all. Semi-open loft. |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:35 am | |
| If pigeons are on open hole they naturally know what is right and what is wrong to eat and drink, far better than we do, very different from letting them out twice a day and then getting them straight back in, when late or lost they hit a problem and eat and drink anything at hand.
Today in many cases it is like keeping pigeons as far away from nature as possible and expecting them to behave in a natural manner.
Regards.
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Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 77 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:51 am | |
| I scattered grit over the garden slabs. Gave then contentment picking around. Especially the youngster when settling them out.
Minerals same. Coal I used crushed. When a pigeon picks and misses, some charcoal did wonders.
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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:55 pm | |
| Got some kilpatrick black minerals today going to give them some this afternoon |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:37 pm | |
| Oops! Years ago gave them a block of cattle minerals. |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:40 pm | |
| Many fanciers used to have a block of rock salt, also I believe used for farm animals.
Regards. |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:42 pm | |
| Still have a blue salt block. Seldom do the birds pick at it. |
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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:18 pm | |
| Yes had a salt block on the platform many years ago young birds pecked at it but nothing els think the rain washed most of it away |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:32 pm | |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:23 pm | |
| If my memory serves me right I think some blocks had iodine in them.
The fact is that if on open hole a pigeon will not normally touch anything harmful.
Regards. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:39 am | |
| - markevans wrote:
- Yes had a salt block on the platform many years ago young birds pecked at it but nothing els think the rain washed most of it away
the minerals you have purchased are by far the best imo they contain charcoal,iodine and salt all for the price of a pint a beer I buy a box of the stuff every year containing 12 packs |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Crop yeast Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:59 am | |
| Iodine etc, were all in the livestock blocks. Still have some around but do not feed them. They ignore them. Same as the pile I burn wood on. Ignore the stuff nowadays. |
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