MNFC Oneloft....

seems like those running the mnfc one loft have rebelled and are going it alone for 2019, they are now calling them selves PRIDE OF THE POTTERIES ONE LOFT.

this will leave the door open to even more skulduggery

Can only go even further downhill now david

yes roy, I think the link with the mnfc was the only bit of control it had, now who knows what will be happening behind the scenes eh.

All seemed very cloak and dagger, was afraid to ask any questions , as you were called a trouble maker, will only be worse now

another thing I heard about the auctions......I was under the impression the breeder / syndicate got 50% of whatever the pigeon made at auction, and the mnfc/ those running it got the other 50% , now I hear we have to pay a % of our 50% for the use of the auction room .......

And none of this was explained before people put they’re birds into the one loft race, but like I’ve said, you weren’t allowed to express your point of view, you were just out to cause trouble, absolute shower of sh- -

I really hope you guys get into the rpra race this time

David wrote:

yes roy, I think the link with the mnfc was the only bit of control it had, now who knows what will be happening behind the scenes eh.

All appears unfortunately, some what of a shambles to me sadly & in some ways a wee bit like Brexit etc maybe.

yes knackered, sounds like he british people have been stabbed in the back yet again, democracy doesn't exist........but then again what did we expect when may was a remainer , all these talks over the last couple of years, were just them plotting and putting in place their plans for basically staying in the eu, the ruling elite were / are never going to let us leave.

17 million peoples opinion doesn't matter.......

Was not 100% vote to leave.

halcanada wrote:

Was not 100% vote to leave.

No True majority voted to leave thou Hal     I suggest "of those that voted" by my understanding etc.

David wrote:

another thing I heard about the auctions......I was under the impression the breeder / syndicate got 50% of whatever the pigeon made at auction, and the mnfc/ those running it got the other 50% , now I hear we have to pay a % of our 50% for the use of the auction room .......

yes that's correct david...they paid money to sell on pipa they paid money to sell in the bhw and they paid money for the auction room at the show also minimum bids were £40 so some birds were not sold and I wonder what will happen to them now ,who will own those birds the mnfc or the potteries one loft,talk about skulduggery is justified as the manner of the sales has been awful and when questioned it was frowned upon ...anyway we got our bird back so feck um let um get on with their boys club

If there had been just 51% voting of staying in the EU then that would have been the end of the matter, no dispute would have been allowed.

If you have a democracy based on the wishes of the majority then it matters not how small or large the majority is.


Blaire and the other parasites tied up in pensions and personal matters who have been advising the EU how to disrupt our democracy should be hung drawn and quartered.


As for the MNFC they could not run a bun fight.


Regards.

we are never going to 100% vote in favour of anything, that's called freedom of choice, and we all have our own opinions.......but the vote to leave was the majority, so that means the majority of the british people wants to leave the eu.

this is bearing in mind how corrupt society is, and how corrupt our government is, who will manipulate the figures like they always do, so in reality , probably more than 17 million people voted to leave, if we knew the full facts and figures.

thing is the government do not want us out of the eu, and will do anything within their power to keep us in it, regardless of what the people want.

oldstrain wrote:

David wrote:

another thing I heard about the auctions......I was under the impression the breeder / syndicate got 50% of whatever the pigeon made at auction, and the mnfc/ those running it got the other 50% , now I hear we have to pay a % of our 50% for the use of the auction room .......

yes that's correct david...they paid money to sell on pipa they paid money to sell in the bhw and they paid money for the auction room at the show also minimum bids were £40 so some birds were not sold and I wonder what will happen to them now ,who will own those birds the mnfc or the potteries one loft,talk about skulduggery is justified as the manner of the sales has been awful and when questioned it was frowned upon ...anyway we got our bird back so feck um let um get on with their boys club

Darren, I read a post on the mnfc page that " a fancier approached them and bought all pigeons that didn't sell" , who that fancier was it didn't say.......if someone did buy them I don't know, but a starting bid of £40 for all birds was total madness, some were bound to not sell, but they would rather kill them than take a lesser bid ??? dodgy lot them.....

David wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

David wrote:

another thing I heard about the auctions......I was under the impression the breeder / syndicate got 50% of whatever the pigeon made at auction, and the mnfc/ those running it got the other 50% , now I hear we have to pay a % of our 50% for the use of the auction room .......

yes that's correct david...they paid money to sell on pipa they paid money to sell in the bhw and they paid money for the auction room at the show also minimum bids were £40 so some birds were not sold and I wonder what will happen to them now ,who will own those birds the mnfc or the potteries one loft,talk about skulduggery is justified as the manner of the sales has been awful and when questioned it was frowned upon ...anyway we got our bird back so feck um let um get on with their boys club

Darren, I read a post on the mnfc page that " a fancier approached them and bought all pigeons that didn't sell" , who that fancier was it didn't say.......if someone did buy them I don't know, but a starting bid of £40 for all birds was total madness, some were bound to not sell, but they would rather kill them than take a lesser bid ???  dodgy lot them.....

well that would make sense david they would not have adopted a £40 minimum bid otherwise as they are too greedy and £10 is better than nothing ...so for me the deal was done before the auction even started ,at least we know how they conduct themselves and can steer clear

oldstrain wrote:

David wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

David wrote:

another thing I heard about the auctions......I was under the impression the breeder / syndicate got 50% of whatever the pigeon made at auction, and the mnfc/ those running it got the other 50% , now I hear we have to pay a % of our 50% for the use of the auction room .......

yes that's correct david...they paid money to sell on pipa they paid money to sell in the bhw and they paid money for the auction room at the show also minimum bids were £40 so some birds were not sold and I wonder what will happen to them now ,who will own those birds the mnfc or the potteries one loft,talk about skulduggery is justified as the manner of the sales has been awful and when questioned it was frowned upon ...anyway we got our bird back so feck um let um get on with their boys club

Darren, I read a post on the mnfc page that " a fancier approached them and bought all pigeons that didn't sell" , who that fancier was it didn't say.......if someone did buy them I don't know, but a starting bid of £40 for all birds was total madness, some were bound to not sell, but they would rather kill them than take a lesser bid ???  dodgy lot them.....

well that would make sense david they would not have adopted a £40 minimum bid otherwise as they are too greedy and £10 is better than nothing ...so for me the deal was done before the auction even started ,at least we know how they conduct themselves and can steer clear

Reminds me some what, of a special race we had here just recently O/S $100,000 was the winners cheque etc. Bird has been well & truly verified as such but strangely, no money forth coming sadly.

What is interesting about this whole saga is that one would think that fanciers send their very best prospects to these events, which are not cheap to enter, and those that actually do the whole series of races and training must have something about them to be there at the end and yet some not in the opinion of others worth £40.

Regards.

Another problem being, who actually owns the pigeons for sale.

You can have Bill who has a fantastic loft and plenty of money and Ben an allotment fancier, both have a pigeon each bred the same way, the latters has won races the formers nothing.


Put them both up for sale the former for£200 and the latter for £20 and I would bet the former would go first.


Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Another problem being, who actually owns the pigeons for sale.

You can have Bill who has a fantastic loft and plenty of money and Ben an allotment fancier, both have a pigeon each bred the same way, the latters has won races the formers nothing.


Put them both up for sale the former for£200 and the latter for £20 and I would bet the former would go first.


Regards.

Oh how true       Misty in many cases     . Bit like many internet type warriors today who have learnt the art of spin & bling etc & would be put to shame by many little back yard types, who wouldn't even know how to use such a thing I would suggest .