trouble ck bird

had a egg smashed today good one in the making to from the pair that bred our 30th mnfc bird last year not happy at all this cock just seems to want to cause trouble in the neighbouring boxes above and below ,would be gone by now but our best yb last year ,guess it solitary confinement for 6 weeks will let him out 3 times a day under supervision to get what he needs ,cant see any other way other than taking him out of the section altogether but that would not suit for his racing ,always 1 it seems ,any ideas lads he was a nightmare to go down with his hen very aggressive bird but I guess that makes some of them ,the dominance factor luckily its in the race section ,stock section should see our one loft babies hatching out tonight and everything in their is tickety boo

haven't done this myself but heard of fanciers tying a bothersome birds legs together, let it take a supervised beating from the cocks who's boxes it's entering. Not sure if I'd like the idea though? Seems severe.
He could be worse once his hen's taken away. Personally I'd get him out for the time being, you'll kick yourself if he breaks more eggs or tramples babies. Try him back in once all the hens are away, you've kept him this long.

Would not tolerate one pigeon causing so much trouble.


If his offspring are so important put him and his hen on their own, he will race just the same and have not wasted energy fighting.


Regards.

will definitely be keeping him he was fine when just the cicks were in the loft its only since breeding has commenced ,think I will take him out and re-introduce when breeding has ceased ...thanks for the replies

oldstrain wrote:

will definitely be keeping him he was fine when just the cicks were in the loft its only since breeding has commenced ,think I will take him out and re-introduce when breeding has ceased ...thanks for the replies

Just an absolute pain in the you know what I suggest O/S when you find yourself with a cock like yours etc . Perfect world shouldn't/doesn't happen I suggest real life thou just an example of what can occur when breeding on average for many of us I suspect, unfortunately.

Don’t know what to suggest on this one, I’ve had similar this year with A cock that won’t let me settle any other clock into the box next to him, I’ve tried cuddly toys , supervised beating. Dragging him around the box by his head then throwing him out onto the floor so he thinks the other bird has done it.
It’s as if he’s possessed he comes back over my head to beat the granny out of the other bird, I’ve wasted weeks shutting them in st different times to get used to each other but he’s a phsyco, he’s fine any other time he just goes crackers if he sees something in the next box to he’s left.
At least I will have a good wind up for racing.

Removed mine and his hen from the stock loft and put them in the empty yb loft.
Now sitting in there.
I have changed the appearence of the front of the box at other times
Fully open or half blanked off anything to make the boxes hes going into that he shouldn't look abit different.
Pain in the bum

Boosey wrote:

Don’t know what to suggest on this one, I’ve had similar this year with A cock that won’t let me settle any other clock into the box next to him, I’ve tried cuddly toys , supervised beating. Dragging him around the box by his head then throwing him out onto the floor so he thinks the other bird has done it.
It’s as if he’s possessed he comes back over my head to beat the granny out of the other bird, I’ve wasted weeks shutting them in st different times to get used to each other but he’s a phsyco, he’s fine any other time he just goes crackers if he sees something in the next box to he’s left.
At least I will have a good wind up for racing.

same scenario here steve absolute fruit cake but should be fun racing him ,before I have got rid but this was my best yb so showing patience will just have to be locked up and supervised freedom 3 times a day I reckon these type could be good racers but all will be revealed

Have a check cock and BB hen. Excellent racers. So put them in the stock loft.First nest the two youngfroze at 14 days. Bad parents. The next two froze yesterday at 14days. Those two go back to the race loft.

Yes tying the legs together , leaving enough slack so it can just about walk. Can't fight as no balance etc. But I never tried it.

halcanada wrote:

Have a check cock and BB hen. Excellent racers. So put them in the stock loft.First nest the two youngfroze at 14 days. Bad parents. The next two froze yesterday at 14days. Those two go back to the race loft.

Same, similar here Hal Red a winner last year & a grizzle hen etc 1st nest one, didn't make it out of the nest thou. 2nd nest, one & it didn't make it out of the nest either sadly. End of the day disappointing, but not value type of pigeons unfortunately on average I suggest from a breeding aspect, maybe.

why not float the eggs then lads

oldstrain wrote:

why not float the eggs then lads

Don't have enough pigeons for that type of thing here etc O/S & I also work on the odds factor as I have ample doing what they should be doing type of thing on the breeding front as such. Now Garbage trash/rubbish, you name it. Just rang the local council, to arrange a pick up of my rubbish here as such. 2 free loads a year I'm allowed & I was just wondering what your situation is there on the local scene compared to mine down here .  
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green bin gets collected every 2 weeks for garden and pet waste costs £50 a year that cock of mine is getting supervised freedom 3 times a day at scrape out time and feed times ,he got a good ticking off seems a bit wary now

We have three bins, green, brown, blue.

The Brown is collected every fortnight, and has garden waste, the green one every fortnight and has house hold waste and the blue one for paper and plastic.


As oldstrain says the garden one is £50 per year the other two covered by the rates.


We can also call the council to collect large items fridges etc also usualy free.



Regards.

oldstrain wrote:

green bin gets collected every 2 weeks for garden and pet waste costs £50 a year that cock of mine is getting supervised freedom 3 times a day at scrape out time and feed times ,he got a good ticking off seems a bit wary now

Gave him the evil look did you O/S . Now things are crook down here on the bin issue etc as we have 3 normal type bins collected on a regular basis. 1, normal kitchen house hold rubbish 2, green waste from the garden & then I'm we have the plastic bin for all house hold plastics to be recycled type of thing for the local yocals . Unfortunately the Chinese have stopped taking it all now from here & its now going into land fill again in many places. Smart lot at the top end of town are rather confused about what they should do about the sad situation as we are supposed to be a green, green type of society here these days .

MISTY wrote:

We have three bins, green, brown, blue.

The Brown is collected every fortnight, and has garden waste, the green one every fortnight and has house hold waste and the blue one for paper and plastic.


As oldstrain says the garden one is £50 per year the other two covered by the rates.


We can also call the council to collect large items fridges etc also usualy free.



Regards.

Same, same here Misty with the green bin etc. Few years ago here the local council had a thought bubble moment & brought in red bins to do the same thing, but were only half the size of the old bins. Neighbours all went red "feel good thing" old fella stuck with the old larger bin he had which he now pays $50 a year extra for to have. Smart lot his neighbours & council as whose bin now do you think gets topped up every week by his neighbours, when it's hauled up his mountain to be collected by the garbage truck here because the red bins now are so small to take the average garbage from the local yocals. Also     smart lot councils     as any body over 4ft 6 inches tall, with our new red bins now will have back problems I suspect as they are that awkward to move being so low to the ground for normal type folk .

Just take mine to the local dump. No fees. Metal whatever. All accepted.

We have same here, Hal, Burniston Refuse Centre, large containers that take different materials free of charge, yet you still get idiots fly tipping in near proximity, cannot understand the mentality.


Regards.

Went to my mates Garage yesterday. Power steering problem, Rack or pump, we will see.

Any road here he was draining galleon drums into 40 Galleon drums. Why? Because they can no longer be burnt. Neither the county Council or Local council know what he is supposed to do with them. Can't go on land fill. Can't go to the tips... nowhere in Northants! So they are piling up on space needed for a car or two!


Last night the News topic was: 'Recycling'. Seema to be about the same since 2010.
Ohhhhh THEN they show a massive incinerator at Peterborough! Yes has been burning for a while now. Massive heat. Massive plant! Are now I see why the garages are not allowed to burn, take to the tips etc. They will have to pay to go to the likes of Peterborough incinerator!
Of course the will have to pay! Have to take time, effort and money to do so...
More costs then on car repairs I guess... No wonder why 'Road Side tips are so popular! Which again costs us rate payers a fortune to sort out.


Mates family - pigeon fanciers - were butchers. Had their own slaughter house. All legal and licensed. Used to go there to get the tripe for my dogs. About 10 miles. Green and by gosh didn't half whiff! In fact when I moved here and started up again they gave me some bird. then Barry said 'Sorry Roly, I can't do, not allowed to now, It has to go to ...'.
then a few months later he was told all such slaughter houses were being closed and central places only allowed to kill.
He challenged it. they came back and stated that he had no longer a license! He asked how come, he was fully licensed and paid up! 'No, sorry your not, you need so and so and such and such license etc. Said he again to them 'My son Troy has all the necate paperwork and licences'.
'No he hasn't, and he was forbade from continuing slaughtering his own and other's live stock.
A part of his income gone, and other expenses incurred!
Tough to carry on … A couple of months later a main slaughter house wrote and asked Troy to go for an interview regards a job. Not just a job, but to take charge of the slaughter house as he was one of the only few eligible qualified person.
So as the shop was starting to flag, and money etc. offered was good, they closed the shop. Troy went to work at Spalding and his dad became a milk man!

It is called the Government's 'Ole Boys brigade' To make money for pals...

Light bulbs here for many miles were 50 odd year old. Still working well! Chameleon said we have to cut down on electricity! So road side lights turned off etc. A one motorway and more etc. was never lit up at night! But the A14 and others were lit up good time... no need!

I stated to all and sundry then, that the Chameleon must have friends in that business!
Gosh lol and behold about 3 years later new lamp posts and lights all around! Not any better, indeed oft not so good!
Ah that firm belonged to an old chum of his. they went school and Uni etc. Friends of the family! You couldn't make it up!
The Chameleon WAS AND IS very wealthy. Wife in money has £330 million at the time... He spent £34.000 for a marble table for his and friends Christmas dinner.. and got shot off just after as it was too big! Bought an Old shed for £25.000! to potter about in! Then has the gaul to spout they are not wealthy, just 'Middle Class'"

Daz, I think wealth in terms of happiness, which can be a fortune in terms of wealth or next to nothing.


Know some very rich people who are anything but happy, read the papers etc; they have to resort to many disputable actions to get their kicks, cannot keep a mariage together etc; etc;


Money does not buy happiness but causes great pain in many instances.


I am aware that there are many people who for one reason or another find it hard to cope financialy but the majority of happy people do not depend on money as the sole reason for there happiness.
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Regards.

Too worried about losing it. Onassis said aged 69 or more - LIKE many others ' I am one of the riches guys in the world. I have hotels, holiday homes all around the earth. Tankers etc. etc. Yet I can't stop working 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Like many more Millionaires I know.

Wife makes me laugh saying 'I'd rather be rich and miserable than Hard up and happy' Fortunately se has no choice, we lack wealth lol.

Contentment is every thing! that I have- with Joyce - in abundance!
'What if you gain the whole work today … and die tomorrow'! What have you gained. I storing up treasure in heaven hopefully.

The things that upsets me the most are those that I wish I had not done and those that on reflection I wish I had done.

Regards.

The things that upsets me the most are those that I wish I had not done and those that on reflection I wish I had done.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

We have same here, Hal, Burniston Refuse Centre, large containers that take different materials free of charge, yet you still get idiots fly tipping in near proximity, cannot understand the mentality.


Regards.

Illegal dumping of illegal waste is a real issue/problem here Misty of late Had 1/2 real bad fires etc in our housing type suburbs, because people cut corners to make that extra buck type of thing & store what they store in places they shouldn't as such. Now Just had one of those smart arse type developers here fined over a million dollars, for demolishing a heritage listed hotel/pub as such after being told he couldn't. Talk here is maybe they will have too build it again brick by brick also. Suspect thou they will just play the bankrupt trick scenario I suspect & then just carry on as normal under another business name etc as many tend to do here when caught out doing some thing on the shonky side of life.