NOT GONE FISHING

Not gone fishing nor has the GOOD LORD said my time is up.

Just had some problems to attend to.

So had no time to participate, things have eased somewhat so I can once again inform, annoy and offer sound advice.

Firstly I trust none have suffered the terrible effects of mans stupidity in ruining the earth.

Heat will not be the only problem, we ain't seen nothing yet regarding floods etc;

Regards.

Notice the RPRA are looking for a new cheif.

Sent my application in.

If successful first thing will be to get rid of the OLD CLIQUE responsible for the dire straights the sport is in.

Some over 40 years on the COUNCIL.

It does not matter they have broken the Rules time after time and falsified evidence etc; to cover up their dispicable behaviour, did they not give the odd pigeon for good purposes, meaningless in finantial terms, enjoy trips abroad and cushy Council Meetings but denied implimanting the HALL REPORT etc; a totally independant body that vertually confirmed what I said 30 years earlier.

WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE GIVE UP A CUSHY NUMBER LIKE THE ONE ADVERTISED, maybe because they cannot stand working with ????????.

Let you know how things go.


Regards.

Notice boosey having a look in, lets know how you are doing, my type of fancier.

Regards.

glad to see you back misty, was getting a bit concerned about you, not been on for a while ..............

JUst had to sort a few problems out Davd.

Just met an old pigeon fancier friend in the paper shop this morning, kicked one or two pigeon facts past and present around.

In our area we used to have 4 clubs varyinging in membership from the over 60 to at least well into double figures, we now have one with a membership of 12.

Talked about costs, he said he had just paid £75 for two bags of feed.

I never kept a lot of pigeons, just a few good ones but would have drawn the line at paying those prices.

With the world situation can see the back garden fancier being priced out of the sport, and they ae the backbone of thes port.

Me thinks we live in sad times but enjoyed the best.

Regards.

strange about the rpra managers vacancy,i thought he was going to be the man as misty says maybe his hands were being tied by old blakey eh

Trouble is oldstrain the Old Clique corrupt any susceptable to their ways and get rid of thos who want change , like they did totally against the rules with several ellected Council Members who wanted to expose the corruption.

Afraid it is too late to realy do anything that will save the sport for the genuine back garden and.allotment fanciers.

On a different note, never seen so much growth on the trees and vegitation this year,

Some trees have but on over six foot and all other vegitation thicker than normal.

Funny old world.

Regards.

same here misty some dahlias we have are massive this year, they say cut them down and wrap the tuba up in newspaper, but we never bother, just leave them in the ground ........never seen them as big

MISTY wrote:

Trouble is oldstrain the Old Clique corrupt any susceptable to their ways and get rid of thos who want change , like  they did totally against the rules with several ellected Council Members who wanted  to expose the corruption.

Afraid it is too late to realy do anything that will save the sport for the genuine back garden and.allotment fanciers.

On a different note, never seen so much growth on the trees and vegitation this year,

Some trees have but on over six foot and all other vegitation thicker than normal.

Funny old world.

Regards.    



   

That climate change thing there now, maybe .

Just read in the BHW one fancier is doing his best to bring the raptor problem into the arena again.

The RPRA Raprtor Alliance was about as much good as pooring petrol on a fire to put it out, just a few cosy meetings with MPs etc; and that 20 years too late.

The numbers of raptors are increasing, the number of fanciers decreasing so the average number of raptor victims will also increase if nothing is done.

Think I was very lucky, only lost two around the loft and killed both culprits when they came back to the dead pigeons, have no idea if the odd one or two I losted racing were victims.

I suggested many years ago having a test case in court to confirm or otherwise our right to protect our pigeons on our own property, we would then know our rights in Law.

In other countries if protected animals etc; kill or damage on private property they are compensated, I wrote to the Prime Minister and asked if this was the case in our country.

Still have reply somewhere, says very sorry for the position fanciers find themselves in but the same does not apply here.

Our country is going to the dogs (actualy an insult to the dogs).murders, every day, robberies not even investiged, say one wrong word and plod will be round for offending someone, report a burglary and look forward to seeing the plod in a couple of months, yet there are dedicated plods doing nothing but chasing
poachers and raptor poisoners etc;

Can see nothing changing.

Regards.

THE ONE THING ABOVE ALL THAT HAS HELD OUR SPORT BACK IS APATHY.

Even now when the sport is on it's last feet fanciers could not care less about the sport in general nor any obvious miss management just so long as they can fly their pigeons.

Afraid they have asked for what they get,

Regards.

exactly right misty, some will jump through hoops and comply with any stupidity just so they can race ....things will only get better once they have no power over us and they cannot blackmail us .

it ends when people say NO

Tis a fact that we live in trying and testing times including those relative to our sport.

Looking at our sport overall it appears some are having a reasonable season and others a diabolical one.

We know the raptors play a major part and to what real extent there is no way of knowing.but there must be things basically wrong throuout the sport.

No one knows, nor has anyone been bothered to look into the tranporters and what they have on our feathered friends under certain weather condition
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There is no doubt our feathered friends are not as naturally healthy as those of years ago, many need constant medication and breed their like,

Doubt if all fanciers stopped giving medication there would be many left.

Think the worst thing that happened in our sport was going from keeping our feathered friends in reasonably normal circumstances ino clinical coditions in posh lofts doing their immune sytems the death warrent, said 40 years ago it would happen.

You only increase immunity by overcomming illness generation on generation
without treatment and those that survive becme immune, we have done the opposite treated and subsequently caused even more serious illnesses.

Looking back over 80 years a wonderful sport has been ruined through greed and
the commercial and monied fanciers becomming involved, if left to the grass root fanciers and run by the likes of Selby Thomas it woud still be the best sport that the ordinary fancier could wish for.

Regards.




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was thinking today...........why did the rpra sell the readings ? whos idea was it that the building should be sold, and a new headquarters bought ...? did those who had the idea ask the members for permission or of their thoughts ...?

do those running the rpra remember the membership own all and everything to do with the rpra ...?

its like the workers at my local McDonalds deciding they want to move shop, and selling the building to buy another one ......

David wrote:

was thinking today...........why did the rpra sell the readings ? whos idea was it that the building should be sold, and a new headquarters bought ...? did those who had the idea ask the members for permission or of their thoughts ...?

do those running the rpra remember the membership own all and everything to do with the rpra ...?

its like the workers at my local McDonalds deciding they want to move shop, and selling the building to buy another one  ......  

In 1979 David the membership of the RPRA was estimated at 60,000 (now theres a thing,, estimated, they should know to the exact number) today estimated at 21,000.

The Reddings etc; turned into a bank balance.

There was no consultation with the membership over the selling of the Reddings etc; The Clique decided.

As I said many years ago, there is nothing complicated about individual voting all it needed was for every club to send in their membrs wishes, to the Region and then the Regions to the Council.

If you look at any other sport in the 1930s and see the progress they have made and then look at the mess our sport is in it is criminal.

You cannot just blame the irresponsible selfish and, some held in high esteem
individuals when they are not fit to be in any sport, tis the apathetic who could not care less how some are treated or how many rules are broken jus tso long as Jack is alright.

PATHETIC DOES NOT BEGIN TO EXPLAIN IT ALL.

The RPRA say they will protect the Council members, and take action, well there are members past and present not fit to be in any sport, so come on RPRA.

Glady take you on.

Regards.

Believe now in rented units David soon be in a tent.

Regards.

where did the money go from selling the reddings ...?

David wrote:

where did the money go from selling the reddings ...?

Tis in the Bank David.

Regards.

i wonder what reason they will find to spend some of it, lets hope someone doesnt run off with it eh ........

David, in the BHW this week it gives the new HQ details, Unit 35-41 UPPER MILLS TRADING ESTATE, STONEHOUSE GLOUSESTERSHIRE.

Wether as normal these kind of units are usualy rented or the RPRA intend purchasing is not indicated.

On the other hand I cannot find any information regarding the Reddings and the land it was on, price if sold or otherwise.

Think all RPRA members are entitled to know every detail involved.

Can find nothing on the last balance sheet, took it for granted if sold the money would be deposited in the bank, but can find no information.

Regards.

sounds a bit cloak and dagger to me misty, id like to know what reason they decided to sell the reddings, and by what i read it was a prime piece of property ....maybe someones pals have got a good deal on it with plans to demolish and build new flats etc

David wrote:

sounds a bit cloak and dagger to me misty, id like to know what reason they decided to sell the reddings, and by what i read it was a prime piece of property ....maybe someones pals have got a good deal on it with plans to demolish and build new flats etc

Srange to say the least David.

Tried numerous times to get to know just what the position is.

The reason for selling was the maintainance costs to keep the Reddings fit for purpose, it was an old building and also too big for purpose.

Sensible to sell it.

What I cannot understand is just what the position is.

Should be easy for any member to just ask if it has been sold and for how much, have tried every avenue and there is no such information available on the
RPRA sites.

Looked on the balance sheet and cannot make sense of it, in this regard.

Would be interesting if anyone knows just what the whole circumstances involved and the present position.

Can see no legal reason for cloak and dagger scenario.

If you find out David would be pleased to know what the present position is.

Regards.

ive asked around misty, and it seems it was in the region of £650k, plus there was mention of a house next door which the rpra own, was it included in the sale ?

David wrote:

ive asked around misty, and it seems it was in the region of £650k, plus there was mention of a house next door which the rpra own, was it included in the sale ?

Thanks David think you are right, the cash in the bank and to hand is roughly £1.300,000 so must have sold it, but still appears cloak and dagger.

Cannot find out the whole facts but can see no reason why a full account was not included in the BHW.

Regards ,

and the managers left now,what a mess ....the sale should be looked into with a magnifying glass