north road pigeons

got few birds that raced NR the fancier who bred them does very well olr and races NR they handle short in the body have kept the ybs back for myself so none have been tested has anyone found NR birds to be short in the body the ones i have 2 hens have been raced

i think darren / oldstrain has raced north road george, he might know something about it ......

dont think its anything specific to north road racing just a type which i quite like ,birds get tested well on the north as theres alot of headwinds

oldstrain wrote:

dont think its anything specific to north road racing just a type which i quite like ,birds get tested well on the north as theres alot of headwinds

I would say O/S in general, men/man type pigeons required etc flying your north road there on average if one thou is just looking for fairy flake types in ones loft, like ****** head south maybe on race day to around Weymouth perhaps & hopefully simply find a supposed head wind apparently up one's backside for the enjoyment factor .

yes oz predominate winds are south west ,enough in my area have got rich quick selling blow home types from portland 60 miles (next door to weymouth) they pick up the river severn and just hug it all the way home

Raced both North and South Road same season, swapped birds both roads during the season.

All you need is healthy capable pigeons fed and housed in an appropriate manner.

Winners come in all shapes and sizes but if you shape a family of your own they tend to be of a similar build.

A load of rubbish talked about a pigeon has to learn in stages how to home.

Why many fanciers lose pigeons is because their pigeons for several reasons are not physically capable of the taskasked of them, they know insticyively their way home but need the petrol, health and ability to get there.

Regards.

not everyone would agree with you last weekend

Well bred birds should home within reason, I wouldn't jump birds from loft flying straight into 200 miles but that's my choice, but difference between getting home and racing home out in front, well into YB season here and those who are banging them, I'm talking about in half a dozen or more on the drop, are those who are training every day, sometimes twice a day. from 30 miles or more. Yes pigeons are generally getting home now they've had a few races under their belt but fanciers who specialise in YB racing, darkness, heavy trainers, paired up etc are the ones who's names at top of sheet week after week. May be different in other areas, I don't know.

i stopped sending birds to a loft he had no club racing 3 x10 ml training tosses then into a national it was 120-130 ml but it's a big ask of a yb

George & Morgan wrote:

i stopped sending birds to a loft he had no club racing 3  x10 ml  training tosses then into a national it was 120-130 ml but it's a big ask of a yb

George I wouldn't have any qualms here etc puting young birds into a 120/30 odd miles race after 3 x 10 mile tosses. Would never do it if trained like a certain one loft race thou, with a certain type reputation etc. But if birds are working the skies around home in a energetic type way for hours, why shouldn't one do as suggested there at 120/30 miles. End of the day I suggest maybe it's somewhat insulting to a degree, to just think that a fit healthy type pigeon is not capable of such a feat under reasonable weather conditions. Now one can maybe be somewhat soft at times with ones thinking & to prove my point, 2 locals here that I could name just sent young birds at the weekend here to 300 odd miles for their first race of the season & both clocked in reasonable time by the results.

are you talking about club racing i'm talking about a national l never heard of anyone sending ybs 300mls for there first race

George & Morgan wrote:

are you talking about club racing i'm talking about a national l never heard of anyone sending ybs 300mls for there first race

not wishing to be insulting here etc George but really a national at a 120/30 odd miles. Just the sheer thought I suggest, has a certain insulting flavour about it from my perspective here I'm Now best to remember maybe, it's big world out there in a pigeon sense these days George as I could name local type flyers here, that have their first race  from 200 odd miles with young birds & 150 miles of it is over an ocean     & they be assured, dont bother/worry about calling them a national for a bit of glory type status    .

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Never trained either young or old birds, they would fly about 200 or 300 miles a day round the loft for the pure joy of it., many times taking off for hours.

Many species fly, every year thousands of miles at a few month olds.

Of course at some point you come a cropper for no fault of your own.



I lost six of my best pigeons from Lerwick, all had flown it on the day previously
no birds returned, lady rang me from Lerwick to say she had picked up an injured pigeon and it was in very poor condition due to injury, she said there was fog and very poor conditions there, she said she would deal with it a it was beyond saving.

So of course you have bad situations but a pigeon does not need to be shown the way home by silly a few mile tosses.

Agree if you do not have open hole you are somewhat handicapped and have to train to get them fit, (not to show them the way home) but 10 mile tosses ?.

Regards.

A

George & Morgan wrote:

are you talking about club racing i'm talking about a national l never heard of anyone sending ybs 300mls for there first race

There you go you have learnt something here maybe George about what young birds perhaps are capable of type of thing, in the right hands. Local race at the weekend here George for only young birds called the Eureka Cup from around 300/400 odd miles, depending where one may just live on the day. 250 odd birds birds/lofts scattered far & wide on the day with birds clocked from one side of England to the other type of thing in the result, with the best bird on the day down here in my view clocking well after dark local time, but beating by birds clocking just before sunset after an all day fly situation there & flying 80 odd miles shorter here compared to the local bird clocked in the dark well after sunset. End of the story     treat young birds like babies     & many will just remain babies till eternity I'm     give credit where credit due thou maybe   & you will perhaps be amazed at what the best of them can achieve in a racing & distance type sense from my local experience    .