smaller loft

nearly finished the 10ft x 6ft loft into a 6ftx 7ft section can't believe how tame they have become went to buy some wood and mesh wire just could not afford it now also did not know old loft was off the square will have to do 10 hens in winter a few odd hens and weaned ybs in breeding season age catches up with you working on your own

yes george, the price of wood is astronomical at the moment, i cant even think of extending while the prices are so high ...

i have had to use old off cuts and it don't look right also different mesh wire

was always pallets, offcuts and bits of wood lying around work or in the skip but not now, everyone got an eye open for DIY or burning on log burners at home. I was spoilt for years, half sheets of ply, 3x2 joists, 4 inch boards, but now everything disappears.

barnie wrote:

was always pallets, offcuts and bits of wood lying around work or in the skip but not now, everyone got an eye open for DIY or burning on log burners at home. I was spoilt for years, half sheets of ply, 3x2 joists, 4 inch boards, but now everything disappears.

everyones feeling the pinch colin, when i cleared the garage out a few weeks ago i saved lengths of wood i would have burned at one point, or pieces of ply i would have thrown away ........

i look on market place on facebook a lot, and i see a lot of used or left over building materials for free or very cheap, if i had a van i`d be allover the place collecting it .

next job and i know it will cost is removing the ridge roof and replacing it with a pent roof also must have a corridor

it was not fair on Morgan birds flying every were

George & Morgan wrote:

i have had to use old off cuts and it don't look right also different mesh wire

Believe me, the loft is the last thing the pigeons are worried about, it is fanciers who want posh lofts etc;

Some of the best performances have been put up from nothing more than rabbit hutches.

Of course you do not want eye sores that upset neighbours etc; but the pigeons can be happy and contented in any loft if treated in a proper manner.

Tameness comes with familiarity,mine had open loft and I could just shout and have a half a dozen would be down in seconds, for a pea nut.

Regards.

the 10 x 6 was just too big when we were both in it also birds are moved from one loft to another when breeding is over the hens can hear the cocks and try and get to them, now they are more settled  and even when i go beside the perches they don't  move so i know i have done the right thing

George & Morgan wrote:

the 10 x 6 was just too big when we were both in it also birds are moved from one loft to another when breeding is over the hens can hear the cocks and try and get to them, now they are more settled  and even when i go beside the perches they don't  move so i know i have done the right thing

If it works, problem solved, glad it has been.

Regards,

this did not help a shelf on the wire door if i went to catch one they would fly past Morgan onto the shelf

ive always thought a shelf was a good thing george, it stops them clinging to the wire and damaging their tail feathers .......

One thing for cetain, all your pigeons look in good nick and no doubt if handling as look would do well in the shows.

I got great pleasure at showing.

Only problem if you do not race is you could not enter flown classes.

Usually a good crowd in the show scene with the usual little bit of back biting that which livens things upa bit.

Not as much work as in racng if you do not take too seriously.


Regards.

used to love preparing them for the club shows, straightening bent feathers over the kettle steam,, washing their feet and ring, and massaging talcum powder into the body feathers ....

not many local shows now

our club has a few after the racing has finished, all through wires, no handling classes any more ......entry numbers arnt what they used to be years ago

Like everything else David gone  to pot.

We used to have a show every other week through the winter months.

Four classes in each show, 200 pens and usually all  full.

Had tea and cakes on offerand the judges were from other clubs.

Bill Carney judged one eye sign show.

I got him to come and look at my pigeons, he condemned one which I had just bought said to have made a record  velocity, however, after I bought it their was a rumour of foul play being involved so I culled it there and then.

He sad I had the best small team he had handled.

Eye sign runs in families, Zions had the best  I have seen, Van Wsyers had good eyes  as have  the Jan Ardens..

Truth being good, bad and indifferent pigeons have good eyes according to the theory.


Otherwise were it infalable or even reasonable far fewer pigeons would need to be kept and all would depend on the fancier getting the best out of them.


Regards.

in 80s my dad sent me a blood red cock it won it;s class in the eye sign under Bill Carney every time in M S R S it also took many firsts ttw class i always thought he was too thin and could not get weight on him but clearly Bill liked him next time you see him ask if he remembers a blood red cock in the 80s in midland show racer society eye sign class he give it first each time he judged

theres a video with don webb judging eyesign at a big show, can remember who he was judging with, but it was a well known eye sign man ......if don comes on he might let us know .

never had show pigeons would enter eye sign likeliest racer and done very well was also member in Wales S R S

Very nice having a kick around lads but Samual says, and so to bed.

Sleep well.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Very nice having a kick around lads but Samual says, and so to bed.

Sleep well.

Regards.

Samuel says I somehow thought here you were your own man etc     type of thing Misty .

George & Morgan wrote:

in   80s my dad sent me a blood red cock it won it;s class in the eye sign  under Bill Carney every time  in M S R S   it also took many firsts ttw class i always  thought he was too thin and could not get weight on him but clearly  Bill liked him  next time you see him ask if he remembers a blood red cock in the 80s in midland show racer society  eye sign class he give it first each time he judged

Big/fat/small/skinny all totally irrelevant etc maybe George I suspect if being purely somehow judged on the eye sign factor/issue. Always will have the believer non-believer types I suggest in a pigeon type sense, but most by the end will just finish up perhaps as general fertilizer in the ground   .

George & Morgan wrote:

next job and i know it will cost is removing the ridge roof and replacing it with a pent roof also must have a corridor

total waste of time & effort there etc George from my perspective here changing you roof line, may give you somehow that feel good moment, for a wee moment but I doubt here if your birds there will be bothered one way or the other type of thing & just going by their general overall condition on average that you appear to keep them in with your present set up as such.

Knackered wrote:

George & Morgan wrote:

next job and i know it will cost is removing the ridge roof and replacing it with a pent roof also must have a corridor

total waste of time & effort there etc George from my perspective here changing you roof line, may give you somehow that feel good moment, for a wee moment but I doubt here if your birds there will be bothered one way or the other type of thing & just going by their general overall condition on average that you appear to keep them in with your present set up as such.

Agree with knackered, making a lot of work unless the roof needs renewing George but it looks bone dry?
While you're going to pent style along with others, just as many will be going the opposite to apex style during the close season. that's pigeon men for you.