Pigeon World Forum Syndicate Bird takes 44th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final.The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain)
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Pigeon World Forum Syndicate also takes 100th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final. The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain)
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Oldstrain/Darren`s Winner of winners. 2012.
From Fed Topper to Master Chef
The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:52 am
Jeremy Davies · The birds have been liberated at East Prawle at 08:45 into sunshine going into a moderate head wind birds cleared in one group online. I would say 12 noon to 12:15 for the winning birds. Loft cameras will be online around 11:30. Best of luck to one and all. Jeremy..
David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Put it on and within a couple of minutes three dropped in, a blue hit the board first and was happy to see it also trap first through the ETS, which is not always the case.
Do not know if they were the first birds back.
What I did notice some of the ETs entrances appeared less open than others several pigeons had to go from one to another to activate the ETS.
Saw one pair come back together with the cock obviously paired up and drving.
Put it on and within a couple of minutes three dropped in, a blue hit the board first and was happy to see it also trap first through the ETS, which is not always the case.
Do not know if they were the first birds back.
What I did notice some of the ETs entrances appeared less open than others several pigeons had to go from one to another to activate the ETS.
Saw one pair come back together with the cock obviously paired up and drving.
THose I saw returned looked in good nick.
Regrds.
In a bit of a quandary here I'm etc Misty hour wasted type of thing do I just maybe even, just or perhaps just end it all now & simple jump off a cliff to end my pain factor. 10% home there in the first hour it appears Down here we would be calling a Royal commission for the legal eagles to hopefully maybe find out what's actually gone wrong again in paradise there as such, on what first appears to be a beautiful type day for a race .
Put it on and within a couple of minutes three dropped in, a blue hit the board first and was happy to see it also trap first through the ETS, which is not always the case.
Do not know if they were the first birds back.
What I did notice some of the ETs entrances appeared less open than others several pigeons had to go from one to another to activate the ETS.
Saw one pair come back together with the cock obviously paired up and drving.
THose I saw returned looked in good nick.
Regrds.
Disregard my last post he Misty another 14 home etc after 2 hours there now. Bones tell me here lights will be on long after dark there maybe somehow, I suspect.
Royal Pigeon Racing Association 21 m · The live YouTube feed from the loft, awaiting the arrival of the One Loft Young Birds from East Prawle
Somehow David I suspect with 78 birds home now after 3 hours today etc over crowding is now not going to be an issue as such End of the day thou have a feeling here Jeremy may just be feeling like Putin now I suspect.
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Begining to think along the lines of the white faced well dressed kids of the so callee ilite who are pampered and given everything but the kitchen sink but are the most sickly kids around Knackerd, no playing and getting rough and dirty no real tests of life in general and usualy end up behind a desk being useless at life in general.
Dressed up they look the part BUT.
Regards.
oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
1/3 rd of the birds are home around 150 of them and 300 on the tiles somewhere,absolutely crazy releasing ybs this time of year down on the coast...peregine alley all along that coastline and the only liberation in the country today let alone down in devon / cornwall ...why are they racing so late in the year it should all be done and dusted,same old every year eh ...poor birds are getting hammered
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8653 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
i think they should stop the lot its clearly not working is it ,it would seem they make it up as they go along,nobody said they would be racing south until all the money was in last year they took away a hotspot and yet had 20 tosses at 5 miles i would say its a farce ...as i said all along they would be better racing with an organisation ,they could still basket up on there own wagon ,the year they raced with a north road organisation they had a really good year but the rpra have got greedy and have doubled the entries ,and the yearlings are no better eh ...sorry to be so negative but its true
David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
spot on darren, i totally agree, its all about the money, they care nothing for the birds and the risks they run during racing or training........it is a complete farce.
weve entered the one loft for quite a few years in the past, and really glad we finally put a stop to entering ,yes it was something for those of us who do not race our selves, but when you consider the welfare of the birds and how things are run, i think we did the right thing.
Problem is some fanciers or syndicates not racing but with a few quid behind them are happy to enter multiple one-lofts, a bit like spread betting. Then it's fingers crossed pay day comes up, no interest in the birds as individuals and don't seem phased by how well or badly things go but just looking for £££££
Better off buying a few lottery tickets each week.
Some of the smaller lofts might be better run, not sure, not much interest to be honest without ourselves entered this year.
David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
i did enjoy entering colin, i wont deny it ....but the rpra just went down hill, and continued to do so year after year without making any attempts to make it any better .
yes we did the right thing giving it a miss this time
Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:12 am
barnie wrote:
yes we did the right thing giving it a miss this time
Sad but true etc Colin I'm Problem with the race in question & the like I suggest, is we actually know now the general outcome in the end on average, before the birds even enter the lofts each year at the start Final race coming up shortly under discussion from wherever & nearly half of the birds there in the race will maybe have had a night out in recent times I suspect from 130 odd miles or less. Whole set up there is & has been a disaster exercise (train wreck) sadly in general terms lately from my perspective. That being said thou if they maybe somehow just gave me 2 free entries next year my views here could possible change maybe .
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8653 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:21 am
the only good point if there is one in the auction you can see the performance of each bird and how it done in the hot spots and final
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:48 am
There is no way in such races every pigeon can be given an equal chance of survival and participation in every event.
No one can be certain of the pigeons health state without handling and observation.
With so many pigeons many may go to even the ridiculous short tosses when they should be isolated and treated.
Flock treatment may help some and be dertrimental to many.
A couple of hours lounging about the loft and then fastened in for 80% of the time is detrimental rather than helpful.
Think maybe a lot of squabling may go on in the loft over perches etc; and an unhappy bunny finds a new home.
In the end, you know what is involved regarding results you do not know how the pigeons are treated so you either take a chance or say no thanks.
For me, I enjoyed the participation but not neither the overall results nor the treatment of the pigeons.
Regards.
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8653 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:00 am
but it is nice to get a bird from the final and all the bad days forgotten
David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:16 pm
one thing for sure, if a bird has been to all hot spots and the finaland still there at the end, it must be a decent enough pigeon .......one thats tried .
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8653 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:21 pm
my thoughts exactly David
Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:27 am
David wrote:
one thing for sure, if a bird has been to all hot spots and the finaland still there at the end, it must be a decent enough pigeon .......one thats tried .
Perhaps the question one should simply maybe ask oneself etc David does one want homers or racing types as such In the years I've been following the race in question I've found few there I'm on average, that actually fit the latter scenario from my perspective here unfortunately.
George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8653 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 79 Location : west Oxfordshire
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:21 pm
the loft were i got my olr bird from doe's very well in olr last year he enter 2 and won best 2 bird average so do olr birds breed better olr birds
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:23 pm
yes thats a point knackered, homers or racers .....but i think luck plays a very big part in how the pigeons perform in one loft races, judging by how they trap and how they return id compare it to throwing a handful of darts at a dart board, one of them will stick .
Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:37 pm
David wrote:
yes thats a point knackered, homers or racers .....but i think luck plays a very big part in how the pigeons perform in one loft races, judging by how they trap and how they return id compare it to throwing a handful of darts at a dart board, one of them will stick .
Luck you say Could I suggest maybe David there are a hell of a lot of unlucky type pigeons that somehow I'm simply find their way into the races in question as such .
oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
Subject: Re: RPRA Hot Spot 4 Underway Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:03 pm
the thing thats getting forgotten here is that its not about the auction its about people paying £125 per bird for a fiasco,i dont think you can rely on the results to portray a decent bird generally ,most are indeed homers its a lottery the racing and the auction too many silly tosses for me