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RPRA Oneloft update - Page 4 Raypeel-1The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
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PostSubject: Re: RPRA Oneloft update   RPRA Oneloft update - Page 4 EmptySat Mar 18, 2023 6:54 pm

Are the members of the forum in the one loft this year must be honest I haven’t looked at all the other posts
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no mark, i think members became disillusioned with the rpra one loft ..........how it was being managed and the poor racing .
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Apparently it was pathetic
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went down hill over the last few years, training seemed strange and the racing was even more bizarre ....
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PostSubject: Re: RPRA Oneloft update   RPRA Oneloft update - Page 4 EmptyTue Mar 21, 2023 10:37 am

Too many pigeons involved, impossible to keep all healthy at the same time and sending ill pigeons to silly training tosses is ill advised.

Would be far better having a two bird limit on entries and also making it easier for the ordinary fancier to be involved by reducing the prize money and making the emphasis on our sport and not money.

Once the emphasis is on money out goes sport.

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PostSubject: Re: RPRA Oneloft update   RPRA Oneloft update - Page 4 EmptyTue Mar 21, 2023 11:03 am

yes i agree misty , too many birds to look after .........how could you possibly manage 1,500 young birds .

i know the number of birds entered reflects the amount of prize money paid out, but just pay out less and take less entries......simple.
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PostSubject: Re: RPRA Oneloft update   RPRA Oneloft update - Page 4 EmptyTue Mar 21, 2023 11:27 am

the rpra simply got to greedy and upped the birdage but without a decent loft design and no aviary ,the training was woeful and it just seemed to go downhill and some strange racing to say the least...turning birds from north to south without any asking of the entrants will not have gone down well with fanciers either and the previous year taking away a hotspot and yet have extra training will have been taken note of to ...yes the demise has been on the cards you cant pull the wool over so many fanciers eyes for to long eh Smile
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the rpra simply got to greedy and upped the birdage but without a decent loft design and no aviary ,the training was woeful and it just seemed to go downhill and some strange racing to say the least...turning birds from north to south without any asking of the entrants will not have gone down well with fanciers either and the previous year taking away a hotspot and yet have extra training will have been taken note of to ...yes the demise has been on the cards you cant pull the wool over so many fanciers eyes for to long eh Smile
If honest here O/S Very Happy Very Happy never greatly concerned about the number factor as such. Is what it was type of thing Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Seen 250 pigeons kept in a 20 x 6 arrangement & still win against thousands on a regular type basis over many years here. Management structure & the general training there as you say with your local race was utterly woeful for the most part I'm affraid if not criminal Wink Wink End of the day Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes what an advertisement for your RPRA there Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad them in the end apparently, being the grandmaster of the circus type of thing WinkWink. cheers alien flower afro
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PostSubject: Re: RPRA Oneloft update   RPRA Oneloft update - Page 4 EmptyWed Mar 22, 2023 10:59 am

There is a big difference between a sole fanciers keeping and racing a large team of his own and someone taking on looking after 1500 pigeons possibly from 750 different lofts all the young may have health problems of different kinds etc;

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yes agree misty,not the same ball game dealing with many different sources from many different lofts and different ages
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whats that george, 600 at the one loft now, and 9 days left to get any others who are entered there ...?
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Just a decent club race number, if all made the final.

Better chance of controlling matters.

Wonder how many entered more than single figures.

Will be very interesting to see how many are lost before the first race.

Maybe get the final entries in a 12 bird basket.


Who knows but hey, will be interesting to say the least.

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PostSubject: Re: RPRA Oneloft update   RPRA Oneloft update - Page 4 EmptyWed Mar 22, 2023 9:43 pm

Irrespective of any other consideration I hope the RPRA OL has a good season.

Think if the final number involved is around 700 I feel the manager will have a far better chance of having a good season, far different from managing over twice that number.

Just hope he does not risk losses from distances that are laughable etc;

How is the other loft on the same site doing George ?.

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There is a big difference between a sole fanciers keeping and racing a large team of his own and someone taking on looking after 1500 pigeons possibly from 750 different lofts all the young may have health problems of different kinds etc;

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Absolutely true with what you say etc Misty Smile Smile in the end thou Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes still a management type issue from my perspective, I'm affraid Vet on hand, prescription drugs, magic potions galore Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad & in the end bounce bounce excuses flow like Niagra falls for the continual poor returns there up to 300 miles, if your lucky Wink Wink.  cheers
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Apparently Smile Smile No apparently about it etc Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Ray Smile Smile Total, continual disaster from start to finish type of thing bounce bounce I found. Except maybe  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes if one somehow, somehow walked away with the cash in the end I suspect. cheers
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i think fanciers have become disillusioned with it over the last couple of years.......its dying, unless they can get back on track .
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only one person to blame and it was greed
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i think fanciers have become disillusioned with it over the last couple of years.......its dying, unless they can get back on track .
Why so Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes may I ask Wink Wink It's always been run under the authority & blessing of your RPRA there bounce bounce by my understanding here David Smile Smile so they should in general be setting the standard of professionalizing in a pigeon type sense there I suggest for your other local One loft races to follow etc. End of the day  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes someone should maybe be held accountable I suggest for how things appear to be there now sadly Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad unfortunately. cheers
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To be fair there is no type of management that can give 1,500 pigeons individual attention.

So, it becomes a case of which can cope best under the circumstances.

The managers job is to find a method of giving them all a reasonable chance.

When you consider all the implications it is an impossible task.

As I once or twice suggested over the years, no treatments for illness, no aids to win, just plain corn etc;

To find out the state of health of our pigeons.

Bet you could get those left in a six bird basket.


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yes misty ,immunity is the first stepping stone for a one loft bird ...when we sent our candidates it was the first consideration as there will be disease abound with so many birds coming from so many sources ,probably why we always got one in the final ...no film stars required really just solid birds with good immunity and a bit of luck on yer side eh cheers
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