gifted this hen

you said they were collect from you to-day

was the bird collected Darren

let me know if your short of anything or want to try something different George and I'll gladly fix you up a few lovely birds. I might need to take a year out next year so planning ahead, you're more than welcome anyway.

thanks Colin have a lot to go will come back to you as may be cocks short

Have you decided how many pigeons you want to keep George ?.

More to the point what do you intend doing with the young ones ?.

The OLs are proving to be an unreliable test and I hope the fancier testing some this year does well.

But you have to have a plan.

Regards.

George & Morgan wrote:

was the bird collected Darren

yer courier never showed up george and never answered the phone on 4 occassions
and never called or sent text to say they were not coming yet sent a text tuesday to say they were going to collect wednesday between 4-6 pm maybe re-arrange george eh with yer courier

sorry about that Darren hope he don't have 2 birds in the morning

which courier did you book george ...?

highflyers for both birds

i phoned highflyers george they are picking up next wednesday but you have to confirm with them but they have booked in the pick up

tried phoning Darren no answer

dont worry george just confirm monday

always found high flyers to be pretty good , never had a problem with them .....

David wrote:

always found high flyers to be pretty good , never had a problem with them .....

Would think that it was inevitable for the carriers to have problems at times numerous things that can go wrong and no fault of the carrier.

Regards.

it was this time misty

misty Morgan was not here to take a eye photo so i had to hold the bird in one hand and camera in the other what i'm trying to show is the circle for a young bird

George & Morgan wrote:

misty Morgan was not here to take a eye photo so i had to hold the bird in one hand and camera in the other what i'm trying to show is the circle for a young bird

No idea how to take photographs George must be very awkward to do it on your
own but very clearly shows the dark circle.

However tis only part of the theory and the iris, pupil and outer circle complete the picture, you need all to be good to be called a good eye.

Look forward to seeing it when you have some help.

Regards.

might try again to-morrow i do have a tripod also a bird holder

thats a good holder george, is it one for vaccinating ...?


the circle on that eye is wide, its like a car tyre .... i have a red hen with a very similar eye, she won 1st in an eye sign show a couple of years ago, she also bred two young birds to win £520 racing as young birds , her own father won 10 firsts racing .

yes David that's what the holder is for but only very small birds

good idea, i`ll bet it makes things a lot easier .......

Think it was a fancier called May who wrote the first book on eye sign, not very big but with pictures etc. in it.

He put great emphasis on the black circle the width of which the wider the better.

However, never seen a pigeon with a black circle win in a eye sign show for many years.

The whole theory changed after fanciers who were interested studied other aspects of the eye.

Look at the present day best performance pigeons.

That does not mean all pigeons with black circles are dummies just that there are their fair share of dummies amongst them.

Regards.

would you prefer a bird with a dark circle or no circle i like to see the circle

George & Morgan wrote:

would you prefer a bird with a dark circle or no circle i like to see the circle

I have always been more interested in the pigeons racing and breeding ability and have found eye sign runs in families and some of the dummies have the best eye sign.

You need pigeons that have all the best qualities in one package and they are few and far between.

Every pigeon George has a circle and the best is thought to be violet by most enthusiasts.

Have won many eye sign shows and also judged them George.

Sat up till after midnight with the late Skarthi and the late Albert Whitty taliking eyesign in front of a log fire in the late Pete Rogers house.

Too many theories best bet the basket.

Rgards.

there are no winners in this argument