RPRA Auction 5th Jan

Part 3 of the Alwyn Hill legacy sale is now live on our auction site until Sunday 14th January: https://auction.rpra.org/




Lot AH330 in the latest round of the Alwyn Hill Legacy Sale, initially incorrectly listed as breeding line unknown, is in fact ‘Young Hugo’, son of 1st Int ‘Hugo’! https://auction.rpra.org/.../lot-ah330-be17-1179127-dc.../

the 3rd of 4 auctions says it all for me

Think there will be more fanciers packing in before their pigeons are worthless.

Cannot blame them but what are fanciers doing paying over the present odds for them.

Regards.

Got to say to do well at the distance you need a large team to get established as one bad race can wipe you out

Alwyn was always a top class fancier even at sprint and middle distance racing, when he raced North Road

Had the best of the Staff Van Reets, when Alwyn sold hid pigeons due to domestic issues Dave Allen brought his top pairings

Would not mind a loft full like the Cheq Pied cock, just my type.

Regards.

Don Webb wrote:

Alwyn was always a top class fancier even at sprint and middle distance racing, when he raced North Road

Had the best of the Staff Van Reets, when Alwyn sold hid pigeons due to domestic issues Dave Allen brought his top pairings  

Thanks Don a story behind a story type thing etc I suggest with Alwyn. A man who had a dream time moment at one stage, apparently & then by all accounts     fortunately achieved/found it in the end it appears.

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Alwyn was always a top class fancier even at sprint and middle distance racing, when he raced North Road

Had the best of the Staff Van Reets, when Alwyn sold hid pigeons due to domestic issues Dave Allen brought his top pairings  

Thanks Don a story behind a story type thing etc I suggest with Alwyn. A man who had a dream time moment at one stage, apparently & then by all accounts     fortunately achieved/found it in the end it appears.

Top fancier was Alwyn, when he set his mind on something there was no stopping him 110% dedication

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Alwyn was always a top class fancier even at sprint and middle distance racing, when he raced North Road

Had the best of the Staff Van Reets, when Alwyn sold hid pigeons due to domestic issues Dave Allen brought his top pairings  

Thanks Don a story behind a story type thing etc I suggest with Alwyn. A man who had a dream time moment at one stage, apparently & then by all accounts     fortunately achieved/found it in the end it appears.

Top fancier was Alwyn, when he set his mind on something there was no stopping him 110% dedication

Mentioned here earlier Don a man who I would have loved to have a long chat with in a pigeon type sense more so now him being as he was as such, apparently.

the best birds are always gone well before any auction mind you a great flyer no doubt i remember handling a son of wing down at a auctioneers loft ,having a good chat with the auctioneer was a real eye opener to the auctions/sales i appreciated his honesty

oldstrain wrote:

the best birds are always gone well before any auction mind you a great flyer no doubt i remember handling a son of wing down at a auctioneers loft ,having a good chat with the auctioneer was a real eye opener to the auctions/sales i appreciated his honesty

Bones well & truly picked over on average I would suggest O/S In general terms auctions are just for the poor peasant folk. Not in the know type thing or part of the clique crowd.  

i cant believe successful fanciers would sell their good pigeons, unless it was a clearance sale it would be pretty stupid to sell them ...... hence my normal way of thinking is they are getting rid of the crap .

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

the best birds are always gone well before any auction mind you a great flyer no doubt i remember handling a son of wing down at a auctioneers loft ,having a good chat with the auctioneer was a real eye opener to the auctions/sales i appreciated his honesty

Bones well & truly picked over on average I would suggest O/S In general terms auctions are just for the poor peasant folk. Not in the know type thing or part of the clique crowd.  

Yes, no doubt their friends will have had the pick of the loft before the auction and the rest left for the gullible to fight over.

No fancier choose who they are has a loft full of good pigeons, many lofts made a name for themselves based on one good pigeon.

Regards.

i have said this many times as a young lad dad would take me with him to the auctions each week in Belfast the ones with money i could hear them say only bought the birds that had flown France not brothers ,sisters dam or sire

In this instance the fancier has died, so everything will be auctioned off.

did i not read on here the best would have gone before the auction has anyone seen the list yes have just looked back a post said his friends would of had there pick just had a look at the sale list all son daughter niece none si would think the best have gone none seem to been raced

[quote="barnie"]In this instance the fancier has died, so everything will be auctioned off. [/quote

Sad reason for the sale, barnie, hope it goes well irrespective of any other consideration he was obviously a very good fancier with some very good pigeons that he would never have parted with.

Hope he is looking down from the loft in the sky and having a laugh at our comments.

Regards.

some comments are at the auctioneer not at him also is it a selection of birds for sale

Keep looking at the cheq pied cock Knackered.

Reminds me of the Aardens I used to have.

Then look out at the empty loft a couple of yards away and think why not, then reality sets in, a bit late me thinks.

Have to settle bird wise for the wild ones that nature throws my way.

Regards.

i think in most cases the birds are picked through in some way, before the auction .... the best are taken .

sad that he has passed away,i can remember many sales of alwyns birds ...i still stand by the fact the best will be long gone before any auction but thats not to say a decent son/daughter or grandchildren cant be had thats a good pigeon to breed from

Don Webb wrote:

Got to say to do well at the distance you need a large team to get established as one bad race can wipe you out

Large perhaps maybe, could mean different things to different type folk etc Don at times, in a distance sense. I'm on average a 100/130 ring type guy here, trying to somehow achieve what the chook farmer types down here do with their 500/600 odd rings each year, if not more at times in many cases.  End of the day racing in winter here & over a 5/6 month typical type season many in my time here, with their wonderful modern so called imports of the day now here unfortunately have short seasons somehow sadly I've found type thing speaking in a local sense & only recently coming back into the game as such in a racing sense with my bunch of misfit, no names out of date types     as I have here, from back when     In the end     2nd or 3rd biggest club local here, size of England type thing     last year for the year sold around 2000 odd rings & somehow at the end 30 odd birds raced home from the last race as such from 500 odd miles & they just happened to come from 2 lofts there in the end in that club with a ring issue between them of 230 rings     strangely enough     & many moons ago here, back when       one of them just come knocking on the door of the other to find out the requirements to become an Icon of the sport, which he is today in every way shape & form when wise folk talk the talk in a honest fashion here, while the other        is now just a typical has been type     hanging in there the best he can so to speak these days with no great aspirations as such & just thankful he can perhaps maybe fall out of his bed every day now     even if at times     it's maybe on the wrong side type thing, which happens with certain folk at times, I've found     .

George & Morgan wrote:

i have said this many times as a young lad dad would take me with him to the auctions each week in Belfast the ones with money i could hear them say only bought the birds that had flown France not brothers ,sisters dam or sire

I believe what you say George But perhaps doesn't mean thou in the owner/sellers eyes as such, with the inside information knowledge they were maybe actually the best type thing I suggest.

Sale appears to be going along nicely and no doubt there will be a few good ones
that go cheaply, however, the state the sport is in does not auger well for long term
commitment and anyone laying out decent sums of money at this time are chancing their arms.

Our inland racing can never be assured, channel racing even more problematic.

Takes years to form a good long distance team and many disappointments in many forms, recently will there be a race being a major turn off, regulations a turn off too.

But hey, what would life be without a challenge or two?.

Regards.