Sootjens?

Just got in some Sootjens "601" ,"689", Mushy Peas and Docherty cock lines any one else got them and if so are they better crossed or pure? Seems to be people doing well with crossed at the moment.

ive got some vdb x soontjens and wildemeersch x soontjens, not raced training for next year

i have them also though the Docherty cock ,but have,nt tried them yet as i only had 3 ybs off them .lost one ,one broke its leg two weeks ago and the other one seems to be a nugget.i think i will cross them next year baring all this in mind

Have not got any pigeons but have found out from friends who have the breed that they are better as a cross and a more stronger pigeon than left pure

peel bros wrote:

i have them also though the Docherty cock ,but have,nt tried them yet as i only had 3 ybs off them .lost one ,one broke its leg two weeks ago and the other one seems to be a nugget.i think i will cross them next year baring all this in mind

ray at doncaster sales when i got bird for you what you wanted, i had no idea about breed you wanted but all i heard was the docherty cock, must be very good i thought then mate

Steve they are good pigeons

well next year i will cross them i think

i have a pair of soontjen x meldert which were bred by ken, the cock was my 3rd bird home today from the open race........not bad for the first race.

excellent well done

little ugly lefebre hen was first back ray..............

good, wis i still had mine lost her last week plus a lot of others as well, like i said i think we will have to make it 4 to 6 ybs in the exchange next year

that would give a better result really ray, i dont think they can be fully tested with only a couple off a certtain pair.....but wether members would go for that idea i dont really know as they will want their own proven teams rather than testing someone elses birds maybe...........

cannot see why not its cost only postage ,,,we will see

those midlands couriers who collected those two ybs for steve (steve brown) were excellent ray they came when trhey said they would and delivered them a few hours later........they were the best ive ever used and will certainly be using them in future.....

we might get a good deal on 6 as well

most likely ray, they were excellent ........not like other clowns ive used in the past.

David let me know which couriers you used or were they are based as i may know them and can give you a bit of info about the people doing the job

hi don, they were called midland couriers and advertised in the BHW, i phoned them on monday and explained that steve would prefer them delivered wednesday due to work/other comitments etc and they collected before 10 am and steve had them a few hours later.........no messing about like some of them not turning up or arriving late etc, excellent, ill use them again.

David i think it is Andy Stokes of Stokes Bros and Son, they are good fanciers and know there pigeons Trevor Williams of Williams Bros and Sons works for them also

If you look in the Black Country Notes you will see them in the results more times than not

As you can see fanciers looking after pigeons and not the other way round

been reading article which says soontjens are originally janssen based........didnt know that

In the racing pigeon

yes don think it was, dont think it was bhw. it was last week i think.

First saw the sootjens in 1987 at the NEC they were being shown by Terry Lodge of Top Lofts UK

Terry had late bred youngsters on show and they were all blues and to look at them they were like street pigeons, when asking Terry about them he informed me that they were the sprint machines of Belguim and were better than Felix Pauwels who at that times was the number 1 in belguim

Also he did say that once they moulted out the would look a different pigeon, Terry had 2 baskets of them and he was only there for just over an hour when a fancier brought the lot of him that saturday and of Terry went with a big grin on his face