HOW MANY YBS ?.....

how many ybs did members start the yb season with, and how many are they left with now its over ?

losses through training? or through racing?.......

and also how many pigeons, obs and ybs are they going to keep over winter ?

I started\ the y/b programme with 42 lost one of the loft 2 racing finished with 39
i will house ove the winter 16 cocks 16 hens

Only lost 5 o/bs this year so will have a headache sorting them out

Ken

thats great numbers ken, in one way....lol like you say it will be a headache sorting them out is the biggest problem isnt it ? rather you than me ken, i couldnt do it.....lol

this is where all ur records come into play
Ken

yes thats true ken, its something that cant be overlooked and forgotten about. we need them in times like this wont we....

We will David, every time you do something with the pigeons or u notice anything log it no matter how small. it all helps
Ken

good sound advice david

thats what we need ian, good advise is important for us to remember.......forget the nonesense some will tell us.

yes david but youll find the top fliers keep it to there selves

Good advice Ken spot on

Yes your spot on Ian, the top fanciers keep everything under there hat

But if you have had your family of pigeons a long time then you should know what to keep and what not to keep

In my early years of racing i would only bred 30 young birds but as years went on the numbers went up and the max i ever bred at anyone time was 60

i think webreed too many youngbirds however we need too to compete with the big fliers

Ian do we need to breed so many young birds to compete with the big fliers ?????. Think about it only one bird can win, or do we breed so many to ensure we end up with a few to replenish the old bird losses ??? This could go back to the topic medicine and pigeons over the last 20 years pigeons have been given all soughts to make them faster, so what damage has been done to the homing ability to achieve that ??? so much so that young bird losses increase year on year ???
Ken

dont know why but the top flyers round my area all seem to send loads of birds to the races, are they doing well because they are sending loads, and is it possible to compete and win by sending a small team ? or are they sending a load of good quality birds ?

Hi David dont know about ur top fliers but here in my clubs, yes they will send big teams, but what you have to think about is alot of the birds they send will be earmarked for speacialist racing ie:- 2bird clubs nationals etc 5 bird club etc yes they do well at club level but also look at the results they also achieve in the specialist racing, and yes a small team flier can compete with them im not a big team flier, but the clubs need them as much as they need small teams
Ken

hi ken, yes i know what your saying, when they are sending a lot of birds the money it is costing to send them is going into the club isnt it.......do you think some of the positions they will win will be down to the fact that they have sent a lot of birds, are they relying on the amount of birds to gain prizes maybe because their birds arnt that good ? would it make any difference.


dont understand what ive wrote here, cant explain what i mean....lol

In some cases yes, but not all the time look at the birds they have clocked in the fancied pigeons will be pooled up, these will be the ones they are clocking in the ones they expected to be there or there about, they know their birds they will know the ones which will sprint but you watch when it comes to the specialist races the distant birds, it will be a different set of birds pooled, in other words they are all good birds but for different racing
Ken

so do fanciers need different strains/breeds to compete and win....and not rely on just one type/family of pigeons ?

i know people say horses for courses but i think any pigeon is capable of any distance its how you set them up mind people will disagree

yes have heard the same ian, have heard janssens will fly distance even tho they are primarily short/medium........so im told anyway.

confusing isnt it

If you look at 99% of the pigeons you will find Janssens are the base of the breed, different birds crossed into them by exceptional stock men to formalate their own Family, my birds all have Janssens in them but they are mainley sprint birds upto 350 mile anything over that and i struggle to get them home on the day the true distant bird will have as a base Janssen but differet breeds crossed in to give them stamina over the distance
Ken

like you say ken the different breeds are just peoples names