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iany wrote:

hi malcolm where do you race from

Hi Ian.
My loft is in Leeds south. and we race with The Heavy Woollen Fed.
Race points: Derby-Melton Mowbray- Stoneleigh-Buckingham- Bovingdon-Newbury and Southsea (that's the YB programme)
Malcolm.

have raced melton mowray and newbury

will you do all your own training malcolm or send with club training soon

how far is melton mowbray to you its 155 mile to me

DAVID wrote:

thanks malcolm, yes good point ill tell him to exercise first before training...i think he will be letting them go with the club training soon.

one piont i would like to ask malcolm is one we have discussed a while ago and that is training either side of the line of flight....by what you have said you practice this method, can you tell me why you think it is important to teach this and do you train 15 in all directions or either side of the line of flight...

Hi David,
Well David, I like to train them either side of the line because I think that YBs have no racing experience and will follow the pack, sometimes only realising how stupid they have been when they are lost! I do not train them with the idea of them breaking away from the pack, I train them to be able to find home if they overshoot or are taken with the drag. Hopefully, my regular training will see them okay on normal races but when the wind is strong they get carried of line.
If you read my post of a few days ago I said I went to Barnsley and tossed them up in a real windy day and I mean windy, now you know the reason why!.
Malcolm.

iany wrote:

how far is melton mowbray to you its 155 mile to me

Hi Ian.
Melton Mowbray is 73 miles to me.

Hi David,
I wont train with others. I did some years ago, but I think I will stick to training for myself.
Malcolm.
Training by myself is exspensive on fuel, as my car Drinks petrol!

malcolm, ive read that some fanciers teach ybs to break at a certain point from the pack and just train continually from there....what are your thoughts on this please.

DAVID wrote:

malcolm, ive read that some fanciers teach ybs to break at a certain point from the pack and just train continually from there....what are your thoughts on this please.

And what happens if they overshoot or get carried to either side with the drag. For me I want my YBs to know every inch of the country for 20 miles around if possible, then they will know where to break.
If fanciers only teach them to break at one point what happens if they are 2-3-4 miles either side of that point?
Malcolm.

yes malcolm i know what you are saying, when we raced we could tell if it was a good one if it came straight down the middle from skelton grange power station... if it came from the side or even behind the loft we new it was no good.

Asyou have said malcolm you need you pigeons to know every blade of grass from around 20 miles back to the loft

how far is the maximum ybs should be trained to? is it of any benefit to train long distances?

david all your doing is learning them how to home out of basket not benifitting at longer distance i think 30 mile should be quite enough, however this is only my opinion

do you always take them yourself ian or do you send them with club training?

both david ilike club training gets them used to comeing out with lots of pigeons

yes ian, i will do the same next year....ill take them first myself and give them a few on their own until they get the hang of it...then let them get used to being let go with a lot of other birds as its no good them going to a race and them wondering whats going on being liberated with loads of other birds...

Sending your birds long training distances you are taking out what you need for race day

for me i would train them everyday at 30 miles and that would be it plus exercise around the loft

But if they are not flying around the loft well then i would take them from a greater distance, may be 40 to 50 miles to get them fit or put a bit of spark in them only a few times

is it right that when training starts for ybs they dont go off ranging any more ?

no david iam racing now and my youngbirds still go off ranging for hour or so this is because of form

oh right, just something i heard......how many times a week do you train your ybs, and how far.....

once i ,am racing once or twice a week depending on weather about 30 mile should be ok but others might disagree ,once they are past 200miles i dont bother training

sounds ok to me ian, maybe someone else will give their opinion on this ?

Will agree with Ian

But sometimes different methods have different results