wing butts

Gary i see you do have theories as you said your theory was that all the strength in breeding stock comes from blues and chs

Only one I have heard was when holding a pigeon in your hand and get hold of there wing and pull it out if there a gap between the body and the wing its sprint but dunno tbh but I have looked and seems to be right

It was a joke mate. But never mind.
Me an expert. Nope.
Over 40 years in racing pigeons. Yes.
I was only trying to offer a little bit of constructive advice, to new starters.
Yes I do have theories, like I said in a previous post.
The basket theory.
But most of my assumptions are based on fact, maybe a typing error, it should have been 24. That's four pairs, four additional hens and one good cock bird. 3 rounds, two eggs each round.
We all make mistakes.
I try to make my hobby the old fashioned way.
Dedication, hard work, slogging your guts out.
Every pigeon bred is potential winner, it's all about good management.
I'm far from an expert, and far from a rich kid.
But what I do try to do is promote, is good husbandry. Healthy birds using natural products.
Pigeon racing on the cheap.
Hypothetically, on a race day you get a drop of four pigeons the first bird you clock wins the race. Are all four birds winners?
Or is it just the one that got clocked in first?
On paper it's just the one.
In my records the other three were potential winners.
What's your definition of a winner.
OK the system wasn't for you.

theres so many theories the vent ,the wing,the eye,the tail,the throat ,winner to winner breeds like theory i think we should let people have their say and not be so judgemental as it is only a theory lol when you think about it if you study these theories at least you are learning about the different aspects of the pigeons anatomy which is very important jmo

I agree wholeheartedly and anything that motivates a fancier cannot be a bad thing. I think the eye sign theory is fascinating. But each to his own.