youngbird sickness

youngbird sickness what is the cause of it whats your view on it

I would say Stress

yes would say stress and is the adeno coli syndrome ybs ?or a secondary infection to it ?

tricky one ian , but like don daid is it stress related ive heard people get it even with out
the birds going in a basket , i think the longer you leave them with the parents the more inmunity
the yb get so the stronger they will be to sickness . my yb don,t get much training and races as yb so i haven,t realy suffered from it so i can,t realy comment on it but there my thoughts .

I have read many theorys on it and dont really know or agree with most, dispite a good management and cleaning at my lofts I have still suffered from it, HoweverI have my own opinions on it, and I think that overcowding, stress and hot weather all seem to be factors in it. This year I never had sick birds that suffered from it in a strong way for days, but did have the odd bird being sick on a perch, but only perhaps the once and was never ill after and continuious, I think because last year I tried not to overcrowd and also started for the first time to use apple cider vinegar in the youngsters water nearly every day I stopped it from taking hold, and for the first time last year never had to kill a youngsters through illness.

Rudderfett wrote:

I have read many theorys on it and dont really know or agree with most, dispite a good management and cleaning at my lofts I have still suffered from it, HoweverI have my own opinions on it, and I think that overcowding, stress and hot weather all seem to be factors in it. This year I never had sick birds that suffered from it in a strong way for days, but did have the odd bird being sick on a perch, but only perhaps the once and was never ill after and continuious, I think because last year I tried not to overcrowd and also started for the first time to use apple cider vinegar in the youngsters water nearly every day I stopped it from taking hold, and for the first time last year never had to kill a youngsters through illness.

Martyn will agree with the over crowding also, the problem also is you bred youngsters end of the winter come training to they are trained and raced in hot weather and if you have to many pigeons in one section because the same air volume coming into the loft has to go round more than can be acheived

dont think this is with overcrowding we have 30 members in our club and i bet everyone at some point gets youngbird sickness , so is all 30 members overcrowding there birds , i myself dont overcrowd, and get a mild form of it ,

usually get the odd one here and their.i think its an infection due to stress.all you can do is keep some adenosan handy.i dont flock treat birds either.if i find a youngsters in the section looking a bit off i put it in a pen to itself and monitor it.

yes, think it stress related..........was it around before the darkness system???

I think not Mark

not sure mark

makes you wonder dont it, i would say darkness really took of from about 1998 when everybody started closing the loft down at say 5pm (still very hot part of the day in May/June), then from June 21st or longest day loft is opened up and we start to train......then bang

i know its not limited to darkness, but it does make you wonder what causes

yes it does but its here now we have to get on with it

true mate, thats one thing most of us can guarantee we will all pick up during the course of the year (fingers crossed only mild)

One thing i was told by an old work colleague (and bloody good flyer Billy Warbrick RIP), when working up i liverpool was to put Cinnamon powder on the corn once a week especially during May/June etc

I think it could be something in the air you seem to get it over your way with us liveing on a island for some reason we dont get it here or I have not herd of it it could be down to stress but our birds have a lot of stress flying over water every race but as i said we dont get it

another thing i was told was elderberry and cinamon reckon elderberry is a natural anyibiotic

dont your youngbirds never hold corn and vomit ginger

thats intersting Ginge, throws all the stress theories out the water so to speak

remeber your breeding birds outside there normal times then subjeting them to the dark when in real terms a bird would have sun and lite
humans suffer feom amneezer and rickets all sorts if kept in the dark to long
when all said and done we are making the choice waht to do to compete but nature will always be the winner

birdy2011 wrote:

remeber your breeding birds outside there normal times then subjeting them to the dark when in real terms a bird would have sun and lite
humans suffer feom amneezer and rickets all sorts if kept in the dark to long
when all said and done we are making the choice waht to do to compete but nature will always be the winner

Your right there

Not realy ian we get the ode one that would bring up its food but i have allways said its eaten something it didnt like what I have herd about it from some pepole is one day they are fine and the next day you could have two three birds dead on the flore

i dont think its down to the dark though

Ginger wrote:

Not realy ian we get the ode one that would bring up its food but i have allways said its eaten something it didnt like what I have herd about it from some pepole is one day they are fine and the next day you could have two three birds dead on the flore

not the case mate thats an exstreme case i get it every year but mild nothing i cant sort

Has anyone had yb sickness before the birds have been out?

another thing is if the lofts to dark and you shut down at say 5pm for 14 hours some birds may still want a drink hence holding corn no water for 14 hours or so
just a thought
guess we could go on for ages on this pigeons lol they do test us to lol