Treating before pairing up ?

do members treat thier pigeons before pairing up, if so what do they treat for and what with.............?

and why ?

dont give anything or treat for anything but times have changed i may be wrong in doing things this way ill soon find out

no preventatives then graham....? canker, cocci, worms etc...?

mine will get their paramyxo jab first week of december then cocci and canker ready to pair up end of january

if they look ok david then i see no need and i can if need have test done but as you know most birds carry some simtoms of somethings keep um clean dry loft well ventilated you wont go far wrong but each to there own but to be honest a lot are brain washed into treating for this and that only a test reveals all as they may have 2 or 3 things wrong and need treating as prescribed not blind jmo

birdy2011 wrote:

if they look ok david then i see no need and i can if need have test done but as you know most birds carry some simtoms of somethings keep um clean dry loft well ventilated you wont go far wrong but each to there own but to be honest a lot are brain washed into treating for this and that only a test reveals all as they may have 2 or 3 things wrong and need treating as prescribed not blind jmo

yes i agree graham but with cocci and canker i like a low count before pairing

like i say unless you get them tested how will ya know you have a low count you maybe treating and waisting time and money a test for coci and canker cost less than the meds

i think ya will find out how the young birds look in the nest but some do like to treat and ive no problem with what others do

so wouldnt you rather treat as a preventative as maybe when feeding etc the stress might possibly bring some illness on, and they could pass it on to the young.........altho as you say, treat when needed eh........so each to their own i suppose.

i have a freind who has a microscope graham and he is educated with it he done a test for me earlier this year and about a month ago and in the damp weather wet canker is rife jmo

to me thats proping up birds befor they even had chance to get imune to anything so thats why i dont treat i dont think that birds feeding is stressfull as most have rested for a few months and should if looked after be fit enough to rear babies any week in the nest bin and look at what bred them

when do members think its best to vaccinate ? when weaning or later in the seaon before yb racing ? does it make any difference ?

not sure about that david but i guess early and get it out the way

i agree with what g says, only if they are tested and have a higher count....afterall we dont take asprin when we dont have a headache but each to there own

ive done it late to be honest, simply for the reason it means they dont need to be done as yearlings the year after because its still within the year (if you know what i mean)

but this is only for that reason, and i suppose for the bird its better to get it over with from an early age, plus its another jooob out of the way for the fancier.

Alex wrote:

i agree with what g says, only if they are tested and have a higher count....afterall we dont take asprin when we dont have a headache but each to there own

but some of us get a flu jab............


some feel worse for it so ive heard ......

to be honest look at the birds its the same as humnas the eyes will tell you if there suffering with anything its the first place ya doctor looks when you go see him how many other than a wormer treat there dogs for anything eles not many and they always look well its not hard to see if you look

I agree mate.
Our droppings were tested and needed worming that's it. Just a few tonics every week and that's their lot.

David wrote:

ive done it late to be honest, simply for the reason it means they dont need to be done as yearlings the year after because its still within the year (if you know what i mean)

but this is only for that reason, and i suppose for the bird its better to get it over with from an early age, plus its another jooob out of the way for the fancier.

that makes sence david see we all learn something new

David wrote:

Alex wrote:

i agree with what g says, only if they are tested and have a higher count....afterall we dont take asprin when we dont have a headache but each to there own

but some of us get a flu jab............


some feel worse for it so ive heard ......

depends where you have it i suppose

humans get flu jab, pigeons pmv jab

i dont know much about this but ive heard/read that all pigeons have a cocci count, and this needs to be monitored and reduced................

could anyone elaborate on this ?

Alex wrote:

i agree with what g says, only if they are tested and have a higher count....afterall we dont take asprin when we dont have a headache but each to there own

alex read what i said they were tested and had a high count in the damp weather

Alex wrote:

David wrote:

Alex wrote:

i agree with what g says, only if they are tested and have a higher count....afterall we dont take asprin when we dont have a headache but each to there own

but some of us get a flu jab............


some feel worse for it so ive heard ......

depends where you have it i suppose

humans get flu jab, pigeons pmv jab

never had one alex, but either your arm or your ar*e..........

i can only wonder what ray would choose

Alex wrote:

i can only wonder what ray would choose

think ray needs to join our new user group...........

oldstrain wrote:

Alex wrote:

i agree with what g says, only if they are tested and have a higher count....afterall we dont take asprin when we dont have a headache but each to there own

alex read what i said they were tested and had a high count in the damp weather

yes i know, but theres varying factors and not everyones are the same. hence why i said if they are tested and show a high count and not treated as a preventative