Roland Janssens

I bought a pair at the Telford show; based more on a liking for the way they looked rather than knowledge of the strain. Does anyone on the site race them, how do they perform and what distance do they do best over?

My 2 came from a good breeder in Seaham and have a good pedigree but I know diddly about them

I have heard conflicting reports about them.
But saying that, we have bought in a family to try for the first time this year.
I believe sprint to middle distance.

Thanks for the reply Gaz - mine was a bit of an impetuous purchase - the cock is a really eye-catching grizzle that a lot of people had shown an interest in thinking it was a Silvershadow(?), after a lot of fannying I ended up buying him and got convinced he needed a mate. I don't regret it I just want to understand how best to use their YB's.

I'm not really a colour merchant where it comes to pigeons. But one thing that really struck me with them, was the whole balance of the birds.
They have bred us some wonderful birds.
We got some Rhode Bingo lines, Superken, White Bandit.
check out the link below.
http://www.vdperre.be/duiven/hoofdpagina.html

Gary that is a very good site well found mate quality

You know me Don, extremely thorough. I've a good feeling about these birds, especially crossing them into our established families.
But as they say time will tell.
They will get the same chance as the others.

Remember when the film was done by Dave Allen , Ray Knight was doing the filming

After seeing the birds he when a brought 2 complete rounds from the breeders before Louella got hold of them

But you know Ray the youngsters were soon in the book for selling

the pigeons on the site put up are long gone from rollands they are a sprint/m distance family better suited to being crossed the best pigeon they ever had was the theif sold to happyco lofts usa renamed the white bandit the birds are based on rollands fathers birds who raced as janssen & segers jos humbrects is the main agent for Rolland probally the best racing loft in the u k who has these is the alex mellor and son in huddersfield
many guys winning well with them xsed but to be honest they have never lived up to all the hype sean

SGWBrown wrote:

I bought a pair at the Telford show; based more on a liking for the way they looked rather than knowledge of the strain. Does anyone on the site race them, how do they perform and what distance do they do best over?

My 2 came from a good breeder in Seaham and have a good pedigree but I know diddly about them

i have some now myself..i got 4 hens off one pair.i lost one one broke its leg excercising,so i have 2 hens left to race on roundabout.so far i like tthe look of them

Thanks for the replies and for the link Gaz, it would appear looking at the pedigrees which came with mine that we have related stock. And I know what you mwean about theway they handle. Mine came from this chap

http://janaardens.co.uk/#

He was very approachable and knowledgable, I've got a couple of Jan Aardens coming from him too.

SGWBrown wrote:

Thanks for the replies and for the link Gaz, it would appear looking at the pedigrees which came with mine that we have related stock. And I know what you mwean about theway they handle. Mine came from this chap

http://janaardens.co.uk/#

He was very approachable and knowledgable, I've got a couple of Jan Aardens coming from him too.

Sounds like a fair and honest fancier Steve

Good luck with them mate

Cheers Don - appreciate it.

I like his style mate, a bit like me and kev, no bull.
Sounds a fair guy to me.
Hope you do well them, let me know how they fly for you.
There was a guy across from us in Blackpool, Wilks Farm, he had some nice birds on his stall, Roland Janssens.
These are some of ours that we have bred off.

Gaz b wrote:

I like his style mate, a bit like me and kev, no bull.
Sounds a fair guy to me.
Hope you do well them, let me know how they fly for you.
There was a guy across from us in Blackpool, Wilks Farm, he had some nice birds on his stall, Roland Janssens.
These are some of ours that we have bred off.

Second that Gary

birds all looking nice gary, hope theres plenty of winners bred from them for you........

I saw the Wilks Farm stall Gaz - nice birds. The grizzle in the 4th pic down on the left is the spitting image of the cock I bought. My RJ youngsters were only rung a couple of days ago hope they turn out as well as yours look.

I hope so mate, we have kept them pure this round, but if they do ok, we will be doing some ambitious crosses next breeding season.
He's from Superken lines.

Yeah, same as mine Superken then through Champion super kweeker12/Champion Bevern Bandellero and Champion Rode Bingo/Champion Diamond White - it sounds good (to me) if nothing else

Sounds familiar. LOL,
I'm gonna give em a good hammering as I always do with young uns. If they can take the pace, they will come good.
That cock has already bred a few winners, so fingers crossed he will have bred a few more.

some nice looking birds there guys
i purchased some roland janseens october -december 2010
i brought in 4 pairs in total from 3 diffrnet sources,
i bought 4 from 1 person, 3 from another person and a friend gave me one,
the 4 were louella lines (white bandit) from a guy in rotherham, total rubbish they were wild and never setteled so they didnt last long breed 1 round from them lost all 4 yb before racing
the others 3 were from a guy in doncaster 2 grizzles and a chequer pied cock they were from alex mellor lines (rode bingo and super kweeeker 11) and all been raced the chequer pied topped the fed for the seller
the grizzles bred a 1st club winner yb last year (race was a smash)
the chequer pied paired to a hen off my mate not seen ped but told she was a grand daughter of super cloud,
they bred 2 ybs that scored well and fled consistant as yb and were both put into widdowod cocks
but lost one last week
we have 2 yb in yb team off the chequer pied pair who look great,
what would i say is that there is too many bad lines around in the rolland janseens
too many people jumped on the white/ grizzle lines and bred for colour
if you can get the right lines i am convinst they will do the damage for ya

interesting reading fletch, ive read/heard of some fanciers doing well with the rolland janssens, and also heard of others saying they are not much good........judging by what you say, if you get the right lines these are where the winners are.

David wrote:

interesting reading fletch, ive read/heard of some fanciers doing well with the rolland janssens, and also heard of others saying they are not much good........judging by what you say, if you get the right lines these are where the winners are.

spot on mate

theres a few members on this site who have them, not sure how they do with them though...........

I bought a couple of RJ's from the rode bingo and super kweeeker lines off of Joe Davis from Seaham, my first round from them were sold in our breeder buyer so I'll have to see how they do but I'm hopeful!!!

It's like anything else guys, it's all trial and error.
I've got a few in my yb team and they will given the same chance as the others.
In fact they will get hammered on the road, just like the rest, any that remain here next year will do so on merit.
I too have heard some conflicting reports, we have one hen given to us from an old guy, who has bred two winners from her and she was a Louella bought bird.