3 Bird rule

Use the force Steve.

i intend to, i think mostly i need to get comfortable with my birds

Don't move them in yet mate
They will be OK in the loft.

steve just keep pluggin away at it ur win will come you seem very keen and dedicated so just fink its matter of time dont ever get to sentimental with the birds . there here to do a job we wud all have hundreds ov pigeons if we kept them just cause they look nice lol . no room for sentiment in this game JMO . as gaz will tell you im more ruthless than him if they carnt do wat ive gt them for well its gone no messin about . you say you gt van reets there mate i have some very gd 1n,s here if you want 6 or 8 or 10 out of next rnd for stock ur welcome or if youd like to leave it till nxt yr thats fine i will make sure you have some for racing upto you steve . they are from mardon van reets mostly but close to the origanals as you will find today these have been well sorted and ive travelled abit to aquire these birds gaz will tell you these are quality birds but just a fort for you to ponder over ok m8 .

great offer there ste, this is what pigeon men should be like offering ybs and help to others who are striving to do better...........well done gary and don too for the info and help they have been giving steve.

Gaz b wrote:

We've all been there Steve, believe me.
I have helped a few fanciers in the past Steve, some have told me it's their birds that are not up to the job.
I have disproved this time and time again, it's not the birds mate.
I spent years handling and basketting birds.
I have handled birds that have been filled up with heavy corn for only a 100 mile race and they wonder why they come nowhere and do you know what they say to me when i comment. 'It might be a holdover' I used to laugh and say lets hope it's for three days
Good health, plenty of exercise and careful feeding, plus a good motivation tactic.
get these right and you surprise yourself.

I take my youngsters for two long tosses further than the first racepoint in some cases before the first race.

this is why i still go help with the basketing at the club gary, even though im not racing..........its good to handle the pigeons that members are sending as you get to feel what they are like, and how they are being sent, ie full of corn etc.....you can also handle the tops prize winners birds and compare how they handlt to those who never win anything.

its an eye opener........

That's the one David, you get a feel for a pigeon, that only comes with experience. In my opinion a quality bird always feels tight in the body, more so with hens, their feathering is always soft almost powdery.
Saying that I handled some National winners, cocks and they have felt uncomfortable in the hand.
The feeding though is a major factor from top fanciers, that I have found, they never go rammed with corn.

A good offer there Steve, from Ste. Like he said he has travelled far and wide for these birds, regardless of cost mate.
Yep Ste is ruthless, when we were racing together, the odd time I would say I'm not too happy with a certain bird, later on I would go to the loft looking for the said bird, it had gone
I'd ask ste what had happened to the bird, he said you wasn't happy with it so it's gone.
After that I kept many thoughts to myself.
When we got yb sickness he was the same, luckily I managed to get him to wait three days, I'm glad we did, some of them won

David wrote:

Gaz b wrote:

We've all been there Steve, believe me.
I have helped a few fanciers in the past Steve, some have told me it's their birds that are not up to the job.
I have disproved this time and time again, it's not the birds mate.
I spent years handling and basketting birds.
I have handled birds that have been filled up with heavy corn for only a 100 mile race and they wonder why they come nowhere and do you know what they say to me when i comment. 'It might be a holdover' I used to laugh and say lets hope it's for three days
Good health, plenty of exercise and careful feeding, plus a good motivation tactic.
get these right and you surprise yourself.

I take my youngsters for two long tosses further than the first racepoint in some cases before the first race.

this is why i still go help with the basketing at the club gary, even though im not racing..........its good to handle the pigeons that members are sending as you get to feel what they are like, and how they are being sent, ie full of corn etc.....you can also handle the tops prize winners birds and compare how they handlt to those who never win anything.

its an eye opener........

Spot on David i used to make at my club and the Midland National when the marking station was at the old Hateley Heath club in west bromwich