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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:36 pm | |
| how much do i put in with 2 liters of water |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13151 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:40 pm | |
| just a couple of drops no more phill |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:52 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:43 pm | |
| phil, not wanting to dissagree with ray and ian but i would put 5 ml per litre.........(appox one teaspoon ) |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:44 pm | |
| p.s. i use honeygar which is cider vinegar and honey mixed from holland and barret health shop... |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13151 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:45 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:47 pm | |
| only a teaspoon ray to a litre............ thats what ive been told by a few fanciers over the last 18 months or so, doesnt seem that much to me. anyone else any thoughts....? |
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dark_chequer Hatchling
Posts : 786 Join date : 2009-04-15 Location : SUNDERLAND
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:51 pm | |
| I was told 30ml to 7 pints . Looks like we need to ask around ourselfs |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:53 pm | |
| thats not far wrong amanda |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:55 pm | |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13151 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:01 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
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Rudderfett Youngbird
Posts : 2152 Join date : 2009-09-27 Age : 56 Location : pembrokeshire
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:13 pm | |
| Evening all, can anyone tell me why you put cidervinegar in the water? please. I have used lemon juice on the corn sometimes to stick stuff to it, but not vinegar. |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:28 pm | |
| hope this answers your question Apple cider vinegar has been known to have numerous benefits to human (and animals) health. The presence of a natural array of acids and minerals helps to maintain the body's own acid balance and mineral metabolism. In fact, it contains a balance of 19 minerals, including potassium, chlorine, sodium, phosphorus, magnesium, calcium, sulphur, iron, fluorine and silicon, and 93 components that can help the body. Moreover, it contains cholesterol-reducing pectin. Often, it has been used in colon and intestinal cleansing. Historically, it has been used by Hippocrates, the Father of Medicine, from 400 BC to treat his patients due to its powerful cleansing, healing and germ fighting qualities.
Today, apple cider vinegar is used to to relieve or treat the following ailments (In humans):
Regulate blood pressure Fight infection Relieve arthritis pain Promote Digestion Improve Metabolism Maintain healthy skin Relieves sore throats, laryngitis Moreover, it is also known that apple cider vinegar helps in some of the diseases like Nausea/Queasiness, Headaches, Muscular Aches & Pains, Sore Throats, Digestive Cleansing, Cholesterol control, Ageing, Arthritis. All these benefits of apple cider vinegar are due to the presence of the essential substances listed below.
POTASSIUM Potassium is essential for life and apple cider vinegar is rich in this. It is needed for the transfer of nutrients to the cells and for the removal of waster and toxic substances. It regulates the fluid in the cells and helps remove excess sodium from the cell, thereby helping to regulate blood pressure. A diet deficient in potassium results in weak and wrinkled skin, flabby muscles, exhaustion, poor memory & heart problems.
CALCIUM Calcium is essential for the building of strong bones and teeth. Hence it helps to prevent osteoporosis. Apple cider vinegar is not only a source of calcium, it also helps the in the uptake of other essential nutrients into the body. A diet deficient in calcium results in weak bones which are easily fractured. However, osteoporosis is not a disease of calcium deficiency but calcium depletion.
PECTIN Pectin is a group of water-soluble colloidal carbohydrates of high molecular weight found in ripe fruits, such as apples, plums, and grapefruit. It is a natural 'gum' so it can be used to jell various foods like jelly, drugs, and cosmetics. Now it is believed to be effective in removing cholesterol from the blood vessel walls, hence helps to reduce cholesterol level in the body.
BETA CAROTENE Beta carotene is an isomeric form of carotene that is commonly found in nature such as plants. The body then converts it to Vitamin A. It also acts as an antioxidant and an immune booster. It is believed to fight the damaging effects of free radicals (produced during metabolic functions or introduced from the environment), prevent cancer and slow down the ageing process.
ACIDS Apple cider vinegar contains rich sources of malic acid and citric acid. These are believed to be important in the metabolic cycle and helps to remove toxic substances that may cause painful joints and muscular pain. Hence, it is believed to relieve symptoms of arthritis and muscular pains. In fact, malic acid has been used therapeutically in combination treatment for fibromyalgia. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:30 pm | |
| hi martyn, as far as i know some fanciers give cider vinegar in the water as a probiotic to help create a barrier of friendly bacteria in the intestines.........they also can give citric acid from lemons as you do. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:31 pm | |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:38 pm | |
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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:42 pm | |
| just thought i would ask as number of guys ive spoke to use it ... and i had a little bit in a bottle wich i was going to try .. where i use garlic in the water ... where i give garlic 2days then tap water 2 days then vit plus for a day then tap water |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:49 pm | |
| phil idont use garlic but if i did i would give them it twice a week cider vinegar once and clean fresh water the rest apart from when you put your tonics in before and after race |
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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:55 pm | |
| ok ian i was going to ask about what tonic to give befor an after race ... what tonic do you all use ... as just been told from a new starter last year not to be shy with treating them as he ended loseing all his birds |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:14 pm | |
| phil, ive used electrolytes when they come home from the race, but some put honey in the water instead......its to replace the energy they have used during the race..... |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:16 pm | |
| phil i use vitamin b12 before they go and glucose on return |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:18 pm | |
| ian, you dont put the B12 in the day of basketing do you....? i thought you usually gave them clean fresh water on fridays ? |
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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:25 pm | |
| i was thinking like u david clean water on friday ... |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: cider vineger Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:25 pm | |
| put it in on thurday night then replace with fresh friday afternoon before i give them light seed |
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