PIPA Auction

Just had a look at the Scotish Partnership of Macalony's birds on offer they are quality pigeons and the eyes on the older pigeons offered for free are top notch

JMO bit I know nothing

Don there was M&D EVANS birds on there with a free old bird, I would have bought one and let the youngster go soon as it got home and kept the old free bird.
The ones for sale didn't look much but the old birds free were class.

Rudderfett wrote:

Don there was M&D EVANS birds on there with a free old bird, I would have bought one and let the youngster go soon as it got home and kept the old free bird.
The ones for sale didn't look much but the old birds free were class.

Martyn I understand what you are saying the free old birds are class but the youngsters are nothing to shout about but that's the reason for doing the post
The quality of the youngsters does reflect on the price of the auction but at least you have the opportunity to obtain a quality old bird even if the age is high

yes its a good sales ploy the bogof ploy lol cant knock it

yes, a very good sales gimick, all the pigeons fanciers are "buying" are bred by Macalony's, which are only half brothers/ sisters to winners , not actual winners themselves.......so this alone says they are selling their surplus pigeons off that havnt performed good enough. so to get a decent price for them they add a direct bred m and d evans bird to push the price up,

this type of auction goes to show us that some will sell for profit inferia pigeons, rather than dispose of them or give them free like the ordinary back garden fancier......

i`d bet fanciers on this site have binned better.

same with premier stud look at the latest 2 vidioes they claim to have sold um all for the next 2 years
yet last week the found a few hundred to sell in bhw

David wrote:

yes, a very good sales gimick, all the pigeons fanciers are "buying" are bred by Macalony's, which are only half brothers/ sisters to winners , not actual winners themselves.......so this alone says they are selling their surplus pigeons off that havnt performed good enough.  so to get a decent price for them they add a direct bred m and d evans bird to push the price up,

this type of auction goes to show us that some will sell for profit inferia pigeons, rather than dispose of them or give them free like the ordinary back garden fancier......

i`d bet fanciers on this site have binned better.

It's happening everywhere David not just on PIPA

yes don your right it is, i read in the BHW every week what some are selling.....the heading is usually "stock birds for sale" and when you read down the list all it tells you is what the parents and grandparents have won, and nothing about what the "stock bird" for sale has bred or won.

its all a scam to get rid of their crap, to gulible mugs.....JMO  

David wrote:

yes don your right it is, i read in the BHW every week what some are selling.....the heading is usually "stock birds for sale" and when you read down the list all it tells you is what the parents and grandparents have won, and nothing about what the "stock bird" for sale has bred or won.

its all a scam to get rid of their crap, to gulible mugs.....JMO  

lol david [lenty ov them about MUGS HAHA  

birdy2011 wrote:

same with premier stud look at the latest 2 vidioes they claim to have sold um all  for the next 2 years
yet last week the found a few hundred to sell in bhw

Graham   , I recently watched a dvd on premier stud etc. 3 Aussies (Money in their pocket) were there visiting     "The palace". The owner was boasting he had 200 pair of hermans etc I believe, along with the other multitude of breeds. Now !!!!!!! I may be a bit thick/old   but I soon figured out, who at the end of the day was the big winner. Sadly !!!!!! in my view, it's not the sport of pigeon racing.  
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If you read the wise old bert braspenning in the BHW, he is always saying in the good old days when you had to visit a loft to get birds, he remembers eating pigeon soup and that was the crap.
But as Bert says the name sells and the market is booming for names with peds and instead of pigeon soup its internet auctions.

I would love to know how many birds have passed through PIPPA in one season and how many in percentage actually went on to produce winners, and I don't mean a first prize winner in a field of 1/200 birds as anything could win out of turn in that, I want to see top winners multiple winners from several hundred or thousands.
If the website had a survey that the fanciers buying could list performances on I think it would close them down.

Not knocking PIPPA I LOVE IT  as I said before I love looking at pigeons and the eyes and see what others are offering for sale, but believe me I troll through hundreds of birds monthly and wouldn't buy most of them about 2 percent look like they would breed winners.

good post martyn.....

Rudderfett wrote:

If you read the wise old bert braspenning in the BHW, he is always saying in the good old days when you had to visit a loft to get birds, he remembers eating pigeon soup and that was the crap.
But as Bert says the name sells and the market is booming for names with peds and instead of pigeon soup its internet auctions.

I would love to know how many birds have passed through PIPPA in one season and how many in percentage actually went on to produce winners, and I don't mean a first prize winner in a field of 1/200 birds as anything could win out of turn in that, I want to see top winners multiple winners from several hundred or thousands.
If the website had a survey that the fanciers buying could list performances on I think it would close them down.


Not knocking PIPPA I LOVE IT  as I said before I love looking at pigeons and the eyes and see what others are offering for sale, but believe me I troll through hundreds of birds monthly and wouldn't buy most of them about 2 percent look like they would breed winners.

Spot on Martyn good post

[quote="David"]yes, a very good sales gimick, all the pigeons fanciers are "buying" are bred by Macalony's, which are only half brothers/ sisters to winners , not actual winners themselves.......so this alone says they are selling their surplus pigeons off that havnt performed good enough.  so to get a decent price for them they add a direct bred m and d evans bird to push the price up,

this type of auction goes to show us that some will sell for profit inferia pigeons, rather than dispose of them or give them free like the ordinary back garden fancier......

i`d bet fanciers on this site have binned better.

doubt that very much, why dis people you dont know---- believe they are top notch men and birdsuote]

northroadracer wrote:

David wrote:

yes, a very good sales gimick, all the pigeons fanciers are "buying" are bred by Macalony's, which are only half brothers/ sisters to winners , not actual winners themselves.......so this alone says they are selling their surplus pigeons off that havnt performed good enough.  so to get a decent price for them they add a direct bred m and d evans bird to push the price up,

this type of auction goes to show us that some will sell for profit inferia pigeons, rather than dispose of them or give them free like the ordinary back garden fancier......

i`d bet fanciers on this site have binned better.

doubt that very much, why dis people you dont know---- believe they are top notch men and birdsuote]

george mcalone has been a top fancier for over 40 years he used to own a big building firm dont think money is an issue but he dont fly in any club only the lanarkshire fed probaly the biggest fed in the UK and most weeks he slaughters them i understand ill health is forcing his sales but make no mistake this man is a class act and a fantastic fancier many fanciers are winning big with his blood lines sean

its to be hoped they are winning big with his blood, because by the looks of it the ybs hes selling have done naff all.........JMO

David wrote:

its to be hoped they are winning big with his blood, because by the looks of it the ybs hes selling have done naff all.........JMO

selling ybs that have done naff all---------unforgivable:(   

northroadracer wrote:

David wrote:

its to be hoped they are winning big with his blood, because by the looks of it the ybs hes selling have done naff all.........JMO

selling ybs that have done naff all---------unforgivable:(   

its not unforgivable monkey, other fanciers do it as well......but i suppose for the price some are going for i would expect maybe position or two racing and not simply "half brother to a winner" as a selling point.

as we all know most pigeons are no good, and this also applies to top flyers, they also have some percentage of rubbish like all of us.

David wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

David wrote:

its to be hoped they are winning big with his blood, because by the looks of it the ybs hes selling have done naff all.........JMO

selling ybs that have done naff all---------unforgivable:(   

its not unforgivable monkey, other fanciers do it as well......but i suppose for the price some are going for i would expect maybe position or two racing and not simply "half brother to a winner" as a selling point.

as we all know most pigeons are no good, and this also applies to top flyers, they also have some percentage of rubbish like all of us.

surely nobody thinks for a minute that every bird in a sale is brilliant, the pigeon game never has worked like that cheetah !!

no monkey, not alll birds in sales are good ones im afraid, but theres always mugs around to buy them who have high hopes for them.........pigeon men are very gullible im sorry to say. 

David wrote:

no monkey, not alll birds in sales are good ones im afraid, but theres always mugs around to buy them who have high hopes for them.........pigeon men are very gullible im sorry to say. 

 

very mature:cheers:   

the truth shouldnt hurt monkey.......

but sometimes it does i`m afraid.   

David wrote:

the truth shouldnt hurt monkey.......

but sometimes it does i`m afraid.   

AH SO !! go figure

David wrote:

no monkey, not alll birds in sales are good ones im afraid, but theres always mugs around to buy them who have high hopes for them.........pigeon men are very gullible im sorry to say. 

    Nothing I like more than an honest man David   & his views etc. Some may like to guild the lily, so to speak  . Unfortunately !!!!! thou in this caper were in, there is far too much of it sadly.  
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