loft white

but thaTS FOR DISINFECTING WELLS And sewers ian..........

do you not get water out of a well

david type in google ,can put bleach in drinking water , see what comes up i know it want harm them ,do you go swimming david have you ever swallowed the water its got chlorine in its a bleach if it wasnt safe they wouldnt use it.

also the only way totreat salmonella is with baytril and that does the same thing doesnt it.kills all bacteria in the gut.the only difference is baytril is an antibiotic and bleach is chlorinated water.97p for 2 litres of bleach with no sell by date.baytril £19 for 50ml and must be thrown out after one month.surely stopping a disease in the loft should be the main priority rather than treating sick birds.maybe some of you will just put sick birds in the bin but even so,the healthy ones need protection as well.

no i dont, in leeds we have a water treatment plant which purifies our drinking water......its called knowstrop sewage works.
in the link its telling you how to sanities water if the drainage system has failed in an emergancy and doesnt say anywhere that giving pigeons bleach in their drinking water is ok for them........


unless ive missed it, maybe you might be able to highlite it where it says it...............

look at the two links above it david

if you honestly think that two drops of bleachin a drinker will harm your birds then i think your not as bright as i thought you were couldnt possibly harm them we give them a lot worse than this when treating them throughout race season

ian wrote:

if you honestly think that two drops of bleachin a drinker will harm your birds then i think your not as bright as i thought you were couldnt possibly harm them we give them a lot worse than this when treating them throughout race season

ian, i never claimed to you or anyone else i was bright in any way, nor do i need anyones aproval regarding how bright or not i am..........only an idiot would give bleach to pigeons to drink, simple as that and whoever doesnt agree they are entitled to their opinion.


and just while you have got a bit of spare time, have a quick look at this............

http://www.brighthub.com/science/medical/articles/55572.aspx

David spot on mate you have my support 100%

Ian glad you were not my chemistry teacher,you would get use all drinking everything in site with a little added water

Don Webb wrote:

Ian glad you were not my chemistry teacher,you would get use all drinking everything in site with a little added water

glad hes not my doctor........ could you emagine it, go in for a cold and ian says drink a cup of bleach and youll be ok...........

Yes your right there David

Can you get new replacement guts which have been burn by bleach on the NHS

a couple of drops in drinker is good for birds gut, know a few who have used it for years, also some use it to clean false teeth

You people who say bleach wont harm them because its such a small amount just have not thought about it , if its that small amount then why have it in there in the first place????

ive never used it myself just told and read some use it

going back to the loft white, I think even though the lime might be alkaline its the drying properties of it that kils the bacteria, take away that and it dies.

DAVID wrote:

ian wrote:

if you honestly think that two drops of bleachin a drinker will harm your birds then i think your not as bright as i thought you were couldnt possibly harm them we give them a lot worse than this when treating them throughout race season

ian, i never claimed to you or anyone else i was bright in any way, nor do i need anyones aproval regarding how bright or not i am..........only an idiot would give bleach to pigeons to drink, simple as that and whoever doesnt agree they are entitled to their opinion.


and just while you have got a bit of spare time, have a quick look at this............

http://www.brighthub.com/science/medical/articles/55572.aspx

you are on about neat bleach david and by the way iam no idiot i dont use bleach myself but cant see any harm in it if its diluted after all we are only talking about two drops in your drinker , many theories david everyone to there own

i knew this subject would cause a bit of aggro.if the people who disagree with using bleach in the water in an outbreak of sickness then try this.split the birds into 2 sections.put half a teaspoonfull of bleach in the drinkers for a few days and only water in the other.think you will find more birds sick with disease than bleach.maybe if bleach was used on a regular basis then it would interupt the birds immune systembut not in times of disease.ive onlu used it twice in one year for 3 or 4 days and it stops spreading disease.even squeekers survived.

i have used it never used it but cannot see any problems coming from using it, only if you give them a cup full like david said

Ian the one thing i will say is you are commenting on something you have not used (that is if i have read the posts right), so how can you say it is o.k

Use it first then comment but see how your pigeons are after a period of time

that is like everyone have you used it don yet you comment has david used it no yet he comments iam entitled to my comments you dont race pigeons at present yet you comment on them we are all entitled to comment is this not what this forum is about don your veiw

Yes i agree, but as i have said i only comment if i have used anything or if other fanciers have used something which i know about

But i would not say something to anyone to use something which i have not used or have not seen it being used and have a good idear about it

But i get feed up you keep commenting that i don't race no i do not but i help out with my freinds around there lofts so yes i am still in the sport even if i don't have pigeons in my garden

touchy don have i hit a sore spot don i know of people who do use bleach in there water and i dont need you to tell me that i cant comment on anything

ian, for what reason would you put bleach into the water.........?