Help wanted by RSPB

The rspb would like to no why their is a diclien in song bírds they have just enouced on countrefile and I dont no if any one on here can tell them why, I just cant think WHY.

they will never admit the decline in song birds is down to the massive up-surge of sparrow hawks,gos hawks and peregrine falcons .... bunch of idiots honestly ...its the rspb that has introduced hundreds of these breeds and promote nest sites in inner city areas which is not their natural habitat

Ginger wrote:

The rspb would like to no why their is a diclien in song bírds they have just enouced on countrefile and I dont no if any one on here can tell them why, I just cant think WHY.

that statement tells you what blinkered silly bastards are running that organisation

they know the answers being hooked beaked and cats but will still need a 5 year investigation

I no they have introduced them in to the city but that brings in money when they can say thats 6 pigeons they have had to day, but they not saying how many songbirds they kill every day.

Ginger wrote:

I no they have introduced them in to the city but that brings in money when they can say thats 6 pigeons they have had to day, but they not saying how many songbirds they kill every day.

most of the general public have no idea of how many are in the towns and cities and I doubt the RSPB wants them to know
the peregrine appeal fund has been a massive earner for the RSPB and if the total was ever given the income would be millions
the drum is not being beaten as loudly about nasty gamekeepers now but as for clearing pigeons from out of the streets thats one gong they WILL KEEP sounding ,.............who gives a feck about pigeons or as they say "flying rats"and it only because Mr Joe Average has noticed the decline in recent years of song birds that something is being said now
wait and see what gets the blame !, pesticides , modern farming and we all must do more , but they wont point the finger at themselves for interfering with nature
neither are they too quick to point fingers at the cat population because of all the old ladies making donations to the RSPB and buying RSPB backed products

pity pigeons do not kill other birds because there would be an inquirey in an instant

i do have cat problems myself, but to be honest I cant see the cat population responsible for any part of the song bird/wild bird decline.....I put it firmly on the sparrow hawks and the protected killers the rspb protect, JMO

it wouldn't surprise me if the rpra are hand in glove somewhere along the line with the rspb........over the last few years of this raptor scam it seems to have not progressed at all, and just had a lot of money pumped into it.........JMO

what makes me laugh most of all is that the rspb are asking the public to erect a nest site in your garden to enhance the population of songbirds -small birds ...what a joke that is as it would just be a meal place for the local sparrowhawk feckin idiots honestly and that chris packham has his finger in more pies at the bbc than little jack horner these feckers are only in it to feather their own nests with £50 notes

[quote="David"]i do have cat problems myself, but to be honest I cant see the cat population responsible for any part of the song bird/wild bird decline.....I put it firmly on the sparrow hawks and the protected killers the rspb protect, JMO

it wouldn't surprise me if the rpra are hand in glove somewhere along the line with the rspb........over the last few years of this raptor scam it seems to have not progressed at all, and just had a lot of money pumped into it.........JMO[/quote

a lot of the protectionist bodies acknowledge the cat problem and I doubt anyone knows the true scale of the damage that is done by them because of the nocturnal habits of poor little puss
as for the RPRA not getting off its arse and helping the people who pay their wages ,.........well nothing new there then
and as for pumping money towards the raptor problem that is a complete waste of time and funds
there can only be one sure way of doing your bit towards the problem and that is to take direct action yourself ,FFS in Germany and other European countries you have the right to protect your property and livestock without the risk of being prosecuted

as for cwiss fecking packham and that mick bitch ,............

I think the bbc are a dodgy organaisation anyway, chris packham was probably a pal of jimmy saville, and we all know what old jimmy got up to in the bbc don't we........

David wrote:

I think the bbc are a dodgy organaisation anyway, chris packham was probably a pal of jimmy saville, and we all know what old jimmy got up to in the bbc don't we........

yeah they all sing from the same song sheet ....do ya wanna be in my gang my gang my gang oh yeah load of weirdos

yes Darren, they are "all in it together", the bbc is just a propaganda machine for the government and their pals........the rspb being one of them.

yeah yer rite countryfile ...winterwatch etc...all a load of boll...s designed to brainwash the public after they have watched hymns of praise

David wrote:

i do have cat problems myself, but to be honest I cant see the cat population responsible for any part of the song bird/wild bird decline.....I put it firmly on the sparrow hawks and the protected killers the rspb protect, JMO

it wouldn't surprise me if the rpra are hand in glove somewhere along the line with the rspb........over the last few years of this raptor scam it seems to have not progressed at all, and just had a lot of money pumped into it.........JMO

I tend to disagree David with your thought's on cats etc. Once they go feral they will kill just about anything to get a feed & even the average house cat has it in them type of thing to enjoy the local birdlife. Now !!! one for the pussy lovers here, from someone who would do everything possible to protect his  local birdlife. The only good cat is a dead cat.

I think every house in the uk would need to own a cat for it to decrease the wild bird population knackered............but that's just my opinion.

over the last 5 - 6 years ive kept pigeons ive had one pigeon killed by a cat....

David wrote:

I think every house in the uk would need to own a cat for it to decrease the wild bird population knackered............but that's just my opinion.

over the last 5 - 6 years ive kept pigeons ive had one pigeon killed by a cat....

Cats are cunning little B*****s etc David all        to there owners, but by nature they are real killing machines. Especially to the local birdlife. So much so, that many of the local councils  place a cerfew on the owners of the cats here to keep them inside locked up at sunset type of thing.

yes your correct knackered, they are certainly very cunning.....and certainly killing machines too.

as for being responsible for the decline in birdlife to the extent that is happening is nonsence ....this is rspb propaganda blaming anything rather than the true problem ie hawks, bops etc.......

the local councils are probably hand in glove with the hawk lovers and fund them "clearing our cities of flying vermin"

David wrote:

yes your correct knackered, they are certainly very cunning.....and certainly killing machines too.

as for being responsible for the decline in birdlife to the extent that is happening is nonsence ....this is rspb propaganda blaming anything rather than the true problem ie hawks, bops etc.......

the local councils are probably hand in glove with the hawk lovers and fund them "clearing our cities of flying vermin"

Not down here David it was the push by the local rate payers that made the local council's come to the party etc. All cats are tagged just the same as dogs here,  so any that are caught out after dark are sent to the sin bin & the owners fined. Now !!! I repeat The only good cat ??? is a dead cat.

who gets the "fine " money knackered, the local rate payers or the council.....? I think I know the answer ........

I think that's a great idea oz damn things are a nuisance are are allowed to soil our gardens frighten and kill our pets at will they have roam of the land here ...well almost

Yes the RSPB are in denial about raptors and theres nothing anyone could ever say or do to reverse this.

I honestly saw last spring a skylark singing high up in the sky and it was pursued by a sparrowhawk, I never seen him take it and couldn't say if the singing was because he was saying youll never catch me or if it was because it was shitting its self. But I saw it and this is whats going on every where, Where are all the cuckoos gone? eaten.

Pembrokeshire has the highest and densest population of peregrines in the world, speak to the resident bird ringers from the BTO who I know well, as I used to be one of them and they laugh and tell me Im a fool, even though I can prove it to them, they just are not interested and its one of the reasons I no longer spend my weekends and evenings ringing for them.

oldstrain wrote:

I think that's a great idea oz damn things are a nuisance are are allowed to soil our gardens frighten and kill our pets at will they have roam of the land here ...well almost

cats indeed do have the right to roam granted by King James if I remember correctly after the black death
however a cat once it has left your grasp/premises ARE NOT considered property unlike a dog , so if you pick one up in the street it is YOURS while you hold it and it does not matter that someone has pedigree papers for it ,....its yours
if you wish to terminate its life and send it to the vets ,put a bullet into its head you may do , so long as it is humanely destroyed , cruelty cannot be condoned
if you consider what the bird population of the U.K is and then consider the cat population you don't need to be Albert Einstein to work out what damage is being done
couple that to the BOP problem ,feral mink and other reintroductions both "legal" and illegal and THE MASSIVE increase in peregrine and Sparrow Hawk numbers which by any stretch of the imagination cannot be justified is why we have such a massive decline in song birds
the cuckoo has been mentioned as being in decline and the answer to that is again Sparrow Hawks , the cuckoo's flight signature is very similar to a female sparrow hawks and when the sparrow hawk is breeding it becomes very teritorial sees an invader and the cuckoo is on the menu ,........but by the time the RSPB concludes that cuckoos will be a thing of the past

as far as I am concerned the RSPB is governed , run and supported by a corrupt shower of knob jockeys

David wrote:

who gets the "fine " money knackered, the local rate payers or the council.....? I think I know the answer ........

Council but that then ??? lowers our rates etc if your a believer in the local spin. That being said David somewhat differant here, as the government tried to put a freeway through my valley a few years ago now & the likes of myself & others revolted "Big time". In the end they put a tunnel under neath it etc at a cost of 350 million dollars, just to save the local natives & the bird life there, so as where as some might have some sympathy for cats I repeat !!! the only good cat is a dead cat & long live the local bird life as such.

interesting post Klausey, but I think youll find you cant claim or kill a cat found wandering......the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 and another 13 acts of parlemant protect them, also a cat is treated by the law as goods, not property and, therefore, the taking of a cat from its owner will amount to theft.....

Knackered wrote:

David wrote:

who gets the "fine " money knackered, the local rate payers or the council.....? I think I know the answer ........

Council but that then ??? lowers our rates etc if your a believer in the local spin. That being said David somewhat differant here, as the government tried to put a freeway through my valley a few years ago now & the likes of myself & others revolted "Big time". In the end they put a tunnel under neath it etc at a cost of 350 million dollars, just to save the local natives & the bird life there, so as where as some might have some sympathy for cats I repeat !!! the only good cat is a dead cat & long live the local bird life as such.

LOL knackered, you know the score with these criminals/thieves alright.........