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JUST HAD A PHONE CALL AND THINK THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS GONNA CAUSE BIG TROUBLE.........IM LEAD 2 BELIEVE A WELL KNOWN AND GOOD FLYER IN MERSEYSIDE WAS UP BEFORE WESTON REGION FRIDAY IN REGARDS WERE HIS ETS PADS ARE PLACED...THEY ARE PLACED ON AN AVIERY....NOW IM LEAD TO BELIEVE THEY DROP ON 2 IT THEN FLY 2 THE Y/B LOFT..AND THAT WAS CONFIRMED BY PICTURES...BUT APPARENTLY SAID MEMBER WAS GOING TO BE SUSPENDED BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT BROUGHT A BARRISTER AND WON THE CASE AND HAD ALL RESULTS PUT BACK HE HAD WON.......NOW HERES THE QUESTION BY WINNING HIS CASE DOES THIS OPEN THE DOORS TO PLACE YOUR ETS P[ADS WERE U WANT OR DO YOU FOLLOW RPRA RULES????

this is probably why rpra are having a meeting about ets locations

dont know how they could overrule union rules this is not right

i bet hes not the only one who does this

I can tell you there are fanciers all over cheating as all race birds must be confined within the loft when timing in

I have known fancier catch birds outside the loft and have the clock on the landing we all know it goes on

Your right there Ray

my ets pad is just inside loft, some use a sputnik really pad is outside loft, this is whats being looked into

peel bros wrote:

i bet hes not the only one who does this

yes ray dont i know

suppose a pad could be fitted on the roof and when a bird drops ont it the bird is clocked....? is this possible....?

yes it can know somebody who done this last year mind you his pigeons are sh##e so made no difference

its been put on top of sputnik by some, so clocked before entering compounds of loft

our rule states that the pad must be placed behind the front of loftnot in front of it

It was advertised in the weekly books last year how the pads should be placed, and the photo's were of a ets pad in a sputnik trap

But it is known that fanciers do fit them as close to the openng of the trap just to gain that extra second

ian wrote:

our rule states that the pad must be placed behind the front of loftnot in front of it

people will have different thoughts but i think this is best wording of it and its inside the loft, having pad inside sputnik is a very big disadvantage for t3 guys

fanciers who clock manualy are at a dissadvantage anyway to ets users, so i think the rules should be that the pad is actually inside the loft as tecnically in the sputnick is out of the loft i would say..... i think.....????? i suppose it is comparable to catching the bird outside on the landing board or catching it in mid flight and clocking it........

i thought aslong as the pad was in confines of loft
no mention of bird being in confines of loft in the nehu rules i read a while back
but will have look see if they have been changed since i last looked
i no must unions have diffrent rules anyway
so think best bet would be to make one rule to apply to all unions
less confusing for people that way

yes thats right inside loft steve when timed in but your right should be one rule for all

yes i agree steve, one rule should apply to all.........altho i do think that sometimes pigeon men sometimes nit pik a little bit too much, if the pad is six inch out of the loft in the trap does it really make that much difference.....?