ITV 9.00pm

I'm sitting here watching the debate for EU Referendum

Watched Nigel first and now its David and he is getting ripped apart

Sorry no interest what so ever in that crap

peel bros wrote:

Sorry no interest what so ever in that crap

I understand Ray its all crap but was watching it and found it a little interesting

its the most important vote you will make in your life so don't leave it to someone else GET YOUR VOTE IN AND VOTE OUT ...Cameron is a worried man as he knows it will be a close call he is sitting behind a pack of lies he wants to sale Britain down the road all our history and rights will be lost forever to a European union superstate where Britain will be a dumping ground for europes riff raff ,its already started so VOTE OUT and control our borders again for your childrens and grandchildrens futures

Cameron was floundering and didn't answer a single question, he basically admitted he is not in control of anything.

peel bros wrote:

Sorry no interest what so ever in that crap

RAYMOND, RAYMOND, RAYMOND.......... not interested its a very important vote to get out of the EU, if we don't do it now future generations will be trapped forever.....our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren etc, etc

the UK pay £50 MILLION POUNDS PER DAY to the EU, that's our taxes we pay to our government, our NHS is on its knees, schools and our industry all failing...we have no control over our borders, our laws and are governed by UN ELECTED BUREAUCRATS who can never be removed, they are a cartel of gansters taking their cut of what we earn.....if the local crook in your area knocked on your door asking for a % of your wage, would you hand it over, this is basically whats happening to us all.

bottom line is, the UK do not need the EU in any way shape or form, its the other way round, they need us....and what the USA/Obama is sticking his nose in for is a puzzle to me, they are not even in the EU, so that should set alarm bells ringing for a start.....

come on raymondo, get your self off to vote, and VOTE OUT !!!!

David wrote:

peel bros wrote:

Sorry no interest what so ever in that crap

RAYMOND, RAYMOND, RAYMOND.......... not interested    its a very important vote to get out of the EU, if we don't do it now future generations will be trapped forever.....our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren etc, etc

the UK pay £50 MILLION POUNDS PER DAY to the EU, that's our taxes we pay to our government, our NHS is on its knees, schools and our industry all failing...we have no control over our borders, our laws and are governed by UN ELECTED BUREAUCRATS who can never be removed, they are a cartel of gansters taking their cut of what we earn.....if the local crook in your area knocked on your door asking for a % of your wage, would you hand it over, this is basically whats happening to us all.

bottom line is, the UK do not need the EU in any way shape or form, its the other way round, they need us....and what the USA/Obama is sticking his nose in for is a puzzle to me, they are not even in the EU, so that should set alarm bells ringing for a start.....

come on raymondo, get your self off to vote, and VOTE OUT !!!!  

Sounds like a paid commercial on TV to me David above. I know your an honest type Politics, require new blood you want to have a shot at it & Ray can be your enforcer      for those that require their faith to change to think as you do .

its a no brainer knackered, look what we have become without a vote to get us in there in the first place....imagine how they would rule is with our permission / consent...?

it doesn't bare thinking about.

David wrote:

its a no brainer knackered, look what we have become without a vote to get us in there in the first place....imagine how they would rule is with our permission / consent...?

it doesn't bare thinking about.

As you know David I'm a kiss type of guy & so the question for me to ask would be. How have things improved since you joined the EU etc for the working class & one really has look beyond the spin & bling put out there to find the true answer I suspect.

oldstrain wrote:

its the most important vote you will make in your life so don't leave it to someone else GET YOUR VOTE IN AND VOTE OUT ...Cameron is a worried man as he knows it will be a close call he is sitting behind a pack of lies he wants to sale Britain down the road all our history and rights will be lost forever to a European union superstate where Britain will be a dumping ground for europes riff raff ,its already started so VOTE OUT and control our borders again for your childrens and grandchildrens futures

SPOT ON DAZ

David wrote:

peel bros wrote:

Sorry no interest what so ever in that crap

RAYMOND, RAYMOND, RAYMOND.......... not interested    its a very important vote to get out of the EU, if we don't do it now future generations will be trapped forever.....our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren etc, etc

the UK pay £50 MILLION POUNDS PER DAY to the EU, that's our taxes we pay to our government, our NHS is on its knees, schools and our industry all failing...we have no control over our borders, our laws and are governed by UN ELECTED BUREAUCRATS who can never be removed, they are a cartel of gansters taking their cut of what we earn.....if the local crook in your area knocked on your door asking for a % of your wage, would you hand it over, this is basically whats happening to us all.

bottom line is, the UK do not need the EU in any way shape or form, its the other way round, they need us....and what the USA/Obama is sticking his nose in for is a puzzle to me, they are not even in the EU, so that should set alarm bells ringing for a start.....

come on raymondo, get your self off to vote, and VOTE OUT !!!!  

SPOT ON DAVID

Boosey wrote:

Cameron was floundering and didn't answer a single question, he basically admitted he is not in control of anything.

Yes Boosey your spot on mate it was very funny how Nigel and David came on to the stage from different ends


COME ON NIGEL

oldstrain wrote:

its the most important vote you will make in your life so don't leave it to someone else GET YOUR VOTE IN AND VOTE OUT ...Cameron is a worried man as he knows it will be a close call he is sitting behind a pack of lies he wants to sale Britain down the road all our history and rights will be lost forever to a European union superstate where Britain will be a dumping ground for europes riff raff ,its already started so VOTE OUT and control our borders again for your childrens and grandchildrens futures

If we come OUT of the EU - we will be in BIG doo doos in a year or so. Coming out of the EU will solve NOTHING and will create a lot of problems for England and the British!

What the politicians are saying, is as normal, is a load of Crap! They are only in it for themselves as always.

Another thing - it will be disaster for all the Ex pats living in the EU. You might say "so what, what does it matter to me", but there are a lot of British people living all over the EU, doing amazing work on OUR behalf. How do you think ALL our Channel races are organised? For example!

I have lived on the continent for may years, so I know what I am talking about. Coming out of the EU would be a BIG mistake!

Phil

blueskylofts wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

its the most important vote you will make in your life so don't leave it to someone else GET YOUR VOTE IN AND VOTE OUT ...Cameron is a worried man as he knows it will be a close call he is sitting behind a pack of lies he wants to sale Britain down the road all our history and rights will be lost forever to a European union superstate where Britain will be a dumping ground for europes riff raff ,its already started so VOTE OUT and control our borders again for your childrens and grandchildrens futures

If we come OUT of the EU - we will be in BIG doo doos in a year or so.  Coming out of the EU will solve NOTHING and will create a lot of problems for England and the British!

What the politicians are saying, is as normal, is a load of Crap!  They are only in it for themselves as always.

Another thing - it will be disaster for all the Ex pats living in the EU.  You might say "so what, what does it matter to me", but there are a lot of British people living all over the EU, doing amazing work on OUR behalf.  How do you think ALL our Channel races are organised?  For example!

I have lived on the continent for may years, so I know what I am talking about.  Coming out of the EU would be a BIG mistake!

Phil

rubbish ....I have also worked in various European countries too its got nothing to do with it I want control of our borders again and don't want to be sold down the river by Cameron and his lap dog ex pats don't make me laugh most of them are crooks or have made their money on the back of the working class man ffs get a grip man and open your eyes to whats happening on the streets our society is becoming un-recognisable I see that everytime I drop my boy off to school sorry phil yer out of touch if you cant see what the country will become for our children and grandchildren if we stay on the eu gravy train

oldstrain wrote:

blueskylofts wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

its the most important vote you will make in your life so don't leave it to someone else GET YOUR VOTE IN AND VOTE OUT ...Cameron is a worried man as he knows it will be a close call he is sitting behind a pack of lies he wants to sale Britain down the road all our history and rights will be lost forever to a European union superstate where Britain will be a dumping ground for europes riff raff ,its already started so VOTE OUT and control our borders again for your childrens and grandchildrens futures

If we come OUT of the EU - we will be in BIG doo doos in a year or so.  Coming out of the EU will solve NOTHING and will create a lot of problems for England and the British!

What the politicians are saying, is as normal, is a load of Crap!  They are only in it for themselves as always.

Another thing - it will be disaster for all the Ex pats living in the EU.  You might say "so what, what does it matter to me", but there are a lot of British people living all over the EU, doing amazing work on OUR behalf.  How do you think ALL our Channel races are organised?  For example!

I have lived on the continent for may years, so I know what I am talking about.  Coming out of the EU would be a BIG mistake!

Phil

rubbish ....I have also worked in various European countries too its got nothing to do with it I want control of our borders again and don't want to be sold down the river by Cameron and his lap dog ex pats don't make me laugh most of them are crooks or have made their money on the back of the working class man ffs get a grip man and open your eyes to whats happening on the streets our society is becoming un-recognisable I see that everytime I drop my boy off to school sorry phil yer out of touch if you cant see what the country will become for our children and grandchildren if we stay on the eu gravy train

Rubbish Pistols at 30 paces, may be the best way to sort this one out etc here . For me Self pride any day & to be able to govern in ones own best interest as such & to prove my point we had a rabble/shifty lot down here 200 years ago     & we had what was called the Euruka rebellion at the time & it turned us all into what we are today, fortunately .

when we talk about ex pats, people working in the EU from the UK, it`s true name is in fact white flight, this could be down to many things but a couple of reasons being mass immigration into our country and the lack of jobs.......also being disillusioned with a corrupt and incompetent government whos loyalties lie with foreign countries, rather than their own country.

we need to get out of the EU now, because it will be our one and only chance ever to leave, we will not get another.......our government, scameron and osbourne are bought and paid for men, who are merely puppets for the true rulers behind the scenes.

we pay the EU 50 Million pounds per day to be part of it, while our whole infrastructure, nhs, schools, roads, services and jobs are decimated, wouldn't this money be best spent here in this country...? we are governed by EU laws and regulations, we cannot control our own borders, we are virtually being run by a foreign power....something hundreds of thousands of men died in two wars to stop this happening.

if we don't get out now, the thumb screws will turn, and things will get a lot worse over the next couple of years, this country will be finished, and overrun by the scum of the world...our children and grandchildren will be paying for our mistakes if we don't do something now.

some people do very well out of being in the EU, put ordinary joe public doesn't, and never will.

David wrote:

when we talk about ex pats, people working in the EU from the UK, it`s true name is in fact white flight, this could be down to many things but a couple of reasons being mass immigration into our country and the lack of jobs.......also being disillusioned with a corrupt and incompetent government whos loyalties lie with foreign countries, rather than their own country.

we need to get out of the EU now, because it will be our one and only chance ever to leave, we will not get another.......our government, scameron and osbourne are bought and paid for men, who are merely puppets for the true rulers behind the scenes.

we pay the EU 50 Million pounds per day to be part of it, while our whole infrastructure, nhs, schools, roads, services and jobs are decimated, wouldn't this money be best spent here in this country...? we are governed by EU laws and regulations, we cannot control our own borders, we are virtually being run by a foreign power....something hundreds of thousands of men died in two wars to stop this happening.

if we don't get out now, the thumb screws will turn, and things will get a lot worse over the next couple of years, this country will be finished, and overrun by the scum of the world...our children and grandchildren will be paying for our mistakes if we don't do something now.

some people do very well out of being in the EU, put ordinary joe public doesn't, and never will.

Interesting thought's etc David I suspect you will always have those that believe the weasel words & waffle that politicans tend to speak as if it's the truth etc & one only has to look at what is going on in America as such with Trump & how he has his band of faithful followers & is leeding them all to paradise city     if he is elected down the track there.  

I doubt he will be elected knackered, the evil woman hillary Clinton will be the next president, then god help us all......

made up my mind long time ago before any of the crap from both sides, I'm for staying, my decision and wont change

oldstrain wrote:

blueskylofts wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

its the most important vote you will make in your life so don't leave it to someone else GET YOUR VOTE IN AND VOTE OUT ...Cameron is a worried man as he knows it will be a close call he is sitting behind a pack of lies he wants to sale Britain down the road all our history and rights will be lost forever to a European union superstate where Britain will be a dumping ground for europes riff raff ,its already started so VOTE OUT and control our borders again for your childrens and grandchildrens futures

If we come OUT of the EU - we will be in BIG doo doos in a year or so.  Coming out of the EU will solve NOTHING and will create a lot of problems for England and the British!

What the politicians are saying, is as normal, is a load of Crap!  They are only in it for themselves as always.

Another thing - it will be disaster for all the Ex pats living in the EU.  You might say "so what, what does it matter to me", but there are a lot of British people living all over the EU, doing amazing work on OUR behalf.  How do you think ALL our Channel races are organised?  For example!

I have lived on the continent for may years, so I know what I am talking about.  Coming out of the EU would be a BIG mistake!

Phil

rubbish ....I have also worked in various European countries too its got nothing to do with it I want control of our borders again and don't want to be sold down the river by Cameron and his lap dog ex pats don't make me laugh most of them are crooks or have made their money on the back of the working class man ffs get a grip man and open your eyes to whats happening on the streets our society is becoming un-recognisable I see that everytime I drop my boy off to school sorry phil yer out of touch if you cant see what the country will become for our children and grandchildren if we stay on the eu gravy train

Coming out of the EU will NOT stop people coming into our country!

it will give us control of our own borders, we get far too many none EU imigrants flooding in to the UK as it is, without the EU mobs.....now turkey is lined up to joint the EU, some many more along with the large influx we have every day will be coming here.

I don't usually take any notice of surveys and made up figures by government run companies , one I heard the other day questioned 1,000 turkish people, 800 of them said once they got the chance they would be heading straight for the UK.

how can anyone in their right minds think being flooded by these worthless people is good for the UK, they either take most of the jobs and send the money back home, therefore not putting it back into our economy , claim benefits for a dozen children and three wives or commit crime.....all this including putting a strain on services such as the nhs, schools, etc....I go to certain parts of leeds, and I feel I am in another country, if I wanted to live amongst these type I would move to Syria, Romania, Somalia etc.

we need a government with a back bone, who is proud of their country and will do their best for the country, but sadly the main two gangs of crooks are not that, and they work together to make sure such a party will never get into power, or their days on the gravy train are finished.

anybody see Nicola sturgeon on the live debate ...talk about feathering her own nest all the stay campaign did in the debate was run down the out campaign they never expressed why we should stay and when it came to immigration they were floundering and started throwing personal insults at boris Johnson ...I think that says it all all those wanting to stay in Europe have vested interests or are foreign nationals or do-gooders who cant see any further into the future than tomorrow multi-cultural society does not work its a great idea but just a dream ,john lennon wrote a great song called imagine but its a dream nothing more ...the history of the world will tell and show you that

oldstrain wrote:

anybody see Nicola sturgeon on the live debate ...talk about feathering her own nest all the stay campaign did in the debate was run down the out campaign they never expressed why we should stay and when it came to immigration they were floundering and started throwing personal insults at boris Johnson ...I think that says it all all those wanting to stay in Europe have vested interests or are foreign nationals or do-gooders who cant see any further into the future than tomorrow multi-cultural society does not work its a great idea but just a dream ,john lennon wrote a great song called imagine but its a dream nothing more ...the history of the world will tell and show you that

Multi cultural societies can work O/S. I've seen it work down here etc & to a point I'm a believer in it, as long as you can decide who is allowed into ones country as such "No boats"     & they are prepared to live your life style/ways & except the gift of a new life etc as given. Where it all can go astray "Big time" from my perspective is when religion rears it's ugly head sadly, by those on the fanatical side of life & they expect you then to become a follower of their misguided ways.

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

anybody see Nicola sturgeon on the live debate ...talk about feathering her own nest all the stay campaign did in the debate was run down the out campaign they never expressed why we should stay and when it came to immigration they were floundering and started throwing personal insults at boris Johnson ...I think that says it all all those wanting to stay in Europe have vested interests or are foreign nationals or do-gooders who cant see any further into the future than tomorrow multi-cultural society does not work its a great idea but just a dream ,john lennon wrote a great song called imagine but its a dream nothing more ...the history of the world will tell and show you that

Multi cultural societies can work O/S. I've seen it work down here etc & to a point I'm a believer in it, as long as you can decide who is allowed into ones country as such "No boats"     & they are prepared to live your life style/ways & except the gift of a new life etc as given. Where it all can go astray "Big time" from my perspective is when religion rears it's ugly head sadly, by those on the fanatical side of life & they expect you then to become a follower of their misguided ways.

that's just it oz they all want to bring their religions and historys with them instead of appreciating a new life and understanding our values and ways most of them don't want to intergrate into our society they just want to congregate in various suburbs and have a gathering all of their own

oldstrain wrote:

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

anybody see Nicola sturgeon on the live debate ...talk about feathering her own nest all the stay campaign did in the debate was run down the out campaign they never expressed why we should stay and when it came to immigration they were floundering and started throwing personal insults at boris Johnson ...I think that says it all all those wanting to stay in Europe have vested interests or are foreign nationals or do-gooders who cant see any further into the future than tomorrow multi-cultural society does not work its a great idea but just a dream ,john lennon wrote a great song called imagine but its a dream nothing more ...the history of the world will tell and show you that

Multi cultural societies can work O/S. I've seen it work down here etc & to a point I'm a believer in it, as long as you can decide who is allowed into ones country as such "No boats"     & they are prepared to live your life style/ways & except the gift of a new life etc as given. Where it all can go astray "Big time" from my perspective is when religion rears it's ugly head sadly, by those on the fanatical side of life & they expect you then to become a follower of their misguided ways.

that's just it oz they all want to bring their religions and historys with them instead of appreciating a new life and understanding our values and ways most of them don't want to intergrate into our society they just want to congregate in various suburbs and have a gathering all of their own

I could say O/S your talking to an Italian/Greek/Vietnamese/German type of guy  with a bit of convict blood thrown in there to make him a true blue aussie etc & his major concern is with all this Halal rubbish he finds in the super markets now, to appease a small minority group of people as such   .