racing pigeons with no experience

yes and if you use them as breeders you will been racing ybs the year after off untried pigeons , me personally i would have a big team of ybs next year and start afresh if your not going to race them as 2 year olds in may/june but that is what i would do not trying to tell you what to do david

Good advise there Darren

yes totally agree start fresh with the youngbirds next year

could have done with getting rid of half of my birds this year but needed them to breed a team of ybs that i can race this year.......

like you say david got to start somewhere

start afresh with young birds,your old birds i think will not beat experienced pigeons,you might be lucky by getting the odd position so if you have nothing to lose try it you might do like darren did

good advise ray

yes i know ian....lol

big head

P.M.S.L. yes good advise ray. i think the easiest way would be for me to have a reduction of all my old birds after i have bred a team of ybs from them, as whatever i have left from racing ybs will become my old birds team for the year after....making me greatly over stocked.

you have to wait until you race youngbirds to see if they score then you know which of the old birds you want to keep for stock

yes, thats true ian.....but altho i will be overstocked do you think one yb season will be enought to decide if the parents are any good ? maybe the ybs might come better as yearlings and id have got rid of the parents ? cant win can i.........

yes your right its not enough but you cant keep everthing just got to go with your gut feeling , ive got rid of many pigeon and they offspring have picked up cards later on

yes thats it, youre right.....cant keep them all. i think its just got to be done and get rid of a few, id rather keep a small team of good birds than a loft full of ones im still testing.....

David if you get rid i bet the youngbirds you win with will be of the ones you have got rid of

You have waited this long a few more month won't hurt you David

Did the same got rid first and the young birds win

nobody is saying get rid now only after his youngbird racing so he can see which is breeding him decent youngbirds

would most likely happen that way don, ive only got three pairs of stock birds so they arent going anywhere for a while untill i test the ybs fron them properly.....and then ive six pairs of yearling and two year olds, so thats 12 birds that have never raced or been trained, what do i do tho....when ive finished the 2010 yb season ill have ybs left over hopefully so ill be overun....stuck between being overcrowded or getting rid of something i shouldnt and making a mistake...

david you will make mistakes dont we all but you cant hang on to everything

suppose its like when i clear my garage out, i dont throw anything away just incase i might need it in future......

yes but you got to have a clear out

i know ian, like the wife says about the garage........be ruthless

thats it david

spot on there Ian