Another potential threat here.

That not good Hal.
There seems to be different strains of it all over the world now.

sorry to hear hal looks like its global now

oldstrain wrote:

sorry to hear hal looks like its global now

Night mare scenario for us pigeon men etc I suspect O/S, sadly. Road to ruin from my perspective, if the road we are being told to follow, we have too follow     if you get my drift.

i have read a few articles about it regarding pigeons and the experts say pigeons are a dead end host of the disease and can contract and die from it but they don't pass it on ,seems a bit strange to me but their you have it

oldstrain wrote:

i have read a few articles about it regarding pigeons and the experts say pigeons are a dead end host of the disease and can contract and die from it but they don't pass it on ,seems a bit strange to me but their you have it

Experts Like politicions etc. Tell you one thing one day & 6 months down the track, their telling you the complete opposite as such.

Migratory birds have been arriving for weeks now. However. Weather in a few days should be OK for the birds to be out. They will go out. My alarm system ( the 30 or so feral pigeons) Will alert me. They are good tough birds. Hawk around I know it by watching them. Regardless, first chance open loft again. I hope they have a built in immune system to cope. Health wise very few problems over the years. survival of the fittest. JMO.

halcanada wrote:

Migratory birds have been arriving for weeks now. However. Weather in a few days should be OK for the birds to be out. They will go out. My alarm system ( the 30 or so feral pigeons) Will alert me. They are good tough birds. Hawk around I know it by watching them. Regardless, first chance open loft again. I hope they have a built in immune system to cope. Health wise very few problems over the years. survival of the fittest. JMO.

Feral's Expert's tell you now, you must jab for just about everything under the sun etc. Pity the ferals were not consolted as such as they appear to be surviving world wide, from what I can see & understand Hal.

Yes. They are not racers or expensive pedigreed birds but survivors. Many years ago had a yb from them. Unbanded. club let me ship it. It went to 150 miles and was always in the top 10. Lost it after that. But was an interesting experiment.

Must also add this. Had a few young from the ferals come in to the loft on occasion. About 1 a year. Left them in there. Flew out with the young for a day or so then took off. If they transmitted any thing via the water then hopefully some immunity was passed on. Yes, some did get sick about 4 years ago but then recovered. Nothing since of note. Couple of cases of Paratyphoid over the years but basically nothing else. I can live with the status quo. But again, each to their own.

halcanada wrote:

Must also add this. Had a few young from the ferals come in to the loft on occasion. About 1 a year. Left them in there. Flew out with the young for a day or so then took off. If they transmitted any thing via the water then hopefully some immunity was passed on. Yes, some did get sick about 4 years ago but then recovered. Nothing since of note. Couple of cases of Paratyphoid over the years but basically nothing else. I can live with the status quo. But again, each to their own.

 Sounds OK Hal to me. 50 pigeons, sitting along a roof top as such last one looks a wee bit on
the sick side of life "dilemma" call Dr Spock here & see $200 go down the drain etc "Big time' or just wait till bin night to solve the problem/issue.