feeding seeds....

Best just mixed in with usual mixture or fed separately after main feed?

These get it mixed in with the regular feed, eat the big stuff first to fill themselves and then pick at the smaller seeds, few bits of barley left then trough taken off at 3pm, 50% Canary conditioning seed 50% Linseed. Looking well on it.

barnie wrote:

Best just mixed in with usual mixture or fed separately after main feed?

These get it mixed in with the regular feed, eat the big stuff first to fill themselves and then pick at the smaller seeds, few bits of barley left then trough taken off at 3pm, 50% Canary conditioning seed 50% Linseed. Looking well on it.

Certainly working for you etc Barnie I suggest, when looking at the pictures you have posted here in the past as such .
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i just mix TK conditioner with their normal feed, they just eat it all together........i dont see it making any difference together or separate .

we give it for breakfast 50% groats and 50% conditioner and a vegetable pellett is added to that mix to ....main feed on a evening has a percentage of depurative added to the mix ,always a few grains of barley left to empty out after they have perched for the night

David wrote:

i just mix TK conditioner with their normal feed, they just eat it all together........i dont see it making any difference together or separate .

Only to the owners maybe David Normally thou what goes in one end goes out the other end as such, so matters little on average I suspect/suggest . & take care.

Whatever works for you.

Used the same mix throughout the year.

Included basic young bird mix including maize and the large grains.

Then a trapping mix and added pea nuts, linseed and hemp.

The former was fed onto the deep litter.

The latter onto a small area where I could clean up any left, usually linseed and rape at different times of the year.

Used this for over 35 years when the best beans became unobtainable on a regular basis.

The only thing I used otherwise was pea nuts as and when, over and above that in the basic feed.

Do not think any two pigeons ate the same feed any two days running.

Just like the wild pigeons.

Worked for me.

Regards.

David wrote:

i just mix TK conditioner with their normal feed, they just eat it all together........i dont see it making any difference together or separate .

its just so that i can gauge how much of the small stuff there getting david they get 1/4 ounce for breakfast of the mix in the morning then 1 ounce main meal in the evening

i just mix approx 5 oz of TK in with their daily feed ........only feed once a day now .

they do get the TK all year round anyway, i rarely alter the corn / feeding, its always the same breeding / racing mix , i dare say i would alter it if i ever raced ........maybe .

oldstrain wrote:

we give it for breakfast 50% groats and 50% conditioner and a vegetable pellett is added to that mix to ....main feed on a evening has a percentage of depurative added to the mix ,always a few grains of barley left to empty out after they have perched for the night

Am pleased to see your use of Groats Oldstrain.

Best all round feed one can have I'd warrant.
50% I fed nigh al season. Great for racing and Breeding.


Feeding youngsters 50%, or more, groats with tic  beans/ Maple peas, and 10% small seed, say a canary. Will give you the best youngsters in the nest and leaving than any other I'd wager.

Groats are in many if not most commercial products.

Balanced with other grains by proffesionals in their field.

So most fanciers will be feeding a certain amount.

I fed some to the canaries prior to the breeding season, well known amongst cannary breeders to put a bit of weight on prior to breeding.

Regards.

Daz wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

we give it for breakfast 50% groats and 50% conditioner and a vegetable pellett is added to that mix to ....main feed on a evening has a percentage of depurative added to the mix ,always a few grains of barley left to empty out after they have perched for the night

Am pleased to see your use of Groats Oldstrain.

Best all round feed one can have I'd warrant.
50% I fed nigh al season. Great for racing and Breeding.


Feeding youngsters 50%, or more, groats with tic  beans/ Maple peas, and 10% small seed, say a canary. Will give you the best youngsters in the nest and leaving than any other I'd wager.

i only have 3 food bins now 1 for breeding mixture 1 for conditioner and 1 for groats always used pinhead oatmeal for trapping ybs to...also add wheatgerm oil to it to and let it soak in and then add some more small seeds to create a hign fat mix for racing/treat has to be given fresh though as oils go rancid ,i like to dabble its half the fun

A handful of aldi porridge Oates in with the food in the morning then locked up till the next day that's mine

markevans wrote:

A handful of aldi porridge Oates in with the food in the morning then locked up till the next day that's mine

For years I always fed a porridge type mix here, multitude of goodies in it. Breeding time the stock birds look an absolute mess I'm so I gave it all away in the end. Strange thing was thou I always bred a multitude of 11 flighted youngsters, to a ridiculous type degree each year.
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Do not think feed can have any influence on number of flights Knackerd genes are responsible for anythings make up.

I like the idea though.

Regards.

Just for a but of fun, ran through several experts views on feed today
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Every one condems the thoughts of others in some way or other but all think they are right.

Did go through many ideas years ago to form my own opinions and ended up with a mixture of all of them and guided by a fancier of renoun served me well.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Just for a but of fun, ran through several experts views on feed today
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Every one condems the thoughts of others in some way or other but all think they are right.

Did go through many ideas years ago to form my own opinions and ended up with a mixture of all of them and guided by a fancier of renoun served  me well.

Regards.

Experts could suggest here maybe most of them talk a load of total bollocks on average etc Misty . Magic formulas Magic mixes give me strength here now   . Even prepared here as generous as I'm to bet Ray's spare 800,000 odd he has there now, that in 50 years the same spin & waffle will be around about the next great magic type mix that one must have if one just wishes to become a champion flyer type . End of the story, what have they all actually achieved come race day on average, all these magic type formulas. For the most part I suggest, empty lofts at seasons end which require replacing each year for the same type of scenario to just happen over & over again, year in year out etc sadly for the average type flyer .