RPRA Update 19/8/21

UPDATE 19/08/2021
August 19th, 2021
Good Evening

Again they were stretched out today , Percy did get round them at the start but within two minutes everything had cleared and around 200 came in the expected time but the others are making hard work of it.

Weather permitting they will be training again tomorrow bar any that came after 1pm today.

I wont be moving on until the birds do what is needed that is my golden rule.

The weather looks good next week so the plan after tomorrow is 30 miles on Monday 40 miles on Wednesday and Friday and that’s weather permitting and how the birds do.

Hot Spot One is pencilled in for Sunday the 29th of August from Ashbourne at 70 miles or the week commencing Monday the 30th.

We will try to follow up with Hot Spot two 5 days after Hot Spot One so please bear this in mind with regards to pooling.

Hopefully with this extra time allowed the birds and things will fall in place for us and believe me i am trying my hardest to give the birds the best chance its just been the most challenging year for us for a good many years.

Will update tomorrow evening.

hot spot 2 five days after hot spot 1 ...........whats other members thoughts on this, is it too quick, or will it be ok ?

too soon for me i think they are being rushed now,ok for those homing in reasonable time but the latecomers ? you only have to look at the training times but i guess it needs/wants to be done and dusted by end of september as weather and temp in october could be iffy

David wrote:

hot spot 2 five days after hot spot 1 ...........whats other members thoughts on this, is it too quick, or will it be ok ?

In normal circumstances David I wouldn't normally have any issues at all. Around a 70 miler for the first race after about 25 tosses & then a 100 miler 5 days later for myself has little concern if the weather is fine/reasonable & the pigeons are tuned into racing mode to complete the task set type of thing. End of the day thou for me here sadly  what's been unfolding of late with our birds suggests to me they are not tuned in at all unfortunately there on the mental or racing side on average for what I see at this stage. Now       home work time here     stay tuned type of thing     going to go & count as such, how many birds have been late & had a night out with our race so far. Have a feeling somehow     the numbers maybe will not be kind to Jeremy by the end I suspect    .  

Have flown and know many others have, pigeons over 350 miles one week and
450 miles the week but one after.

The pigeons just have to be fit and of course have the ability.

These in the OL are supposed to be from fanciers best yet struggle from within sight of the loft to get back in reasonable time and often not at all.

You cannot keep blaming raptors, something ( in my opinion the treatment the OL birds are getting, both medicinal and training) is not conjusive to good practice.

A total and utter Cock Up.

Regards.

i agree with oz if the birds are in the right frame of mind and health then no problem at all ,the thing is are they it would seem not but time is getting on eh so they will go irrespective as we well know eh

oldstrain wrote:

too soon for me i think they are being rushed now,ok for those homing in reasonable time but the latecomers ? you only have to look at the training times but i guess it needs/wants to be done and dusted by end of september as weather and temp in october could be iffy

yes i agree darren, looks like he is trying to rush things along now , but when you think of how training started at 1 mile intervals, and all the wasted time with pointless training tosses, it makes you wonder if these running the one loft actually know what they are doing, or are they just not bothered about the birds welfare .....

Yet a simple fact, was two 50 milers a week. kept the youngsters and old birds in fine fettle
Agreed it is my belief - if Loft exercised every day, that is in its self a waste of time and effort.
But would keep the vast majority of fanciers happy.
11 miles lol     . I took more, as a kid, on a push bike lol.

Tried getting latest from RPRA site, as with everything else thay do
not up to date.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Have flown and know many others have, pigeons over 350 miles one week and
450 miles the week but one after.

The pigeons just have to be fit and of course have the ability.

These in the OL are supposed to be from fanciers best yet struggle from within sight of the loft to get back in reasonable time and often not at all.

You cannot keep blaming raptors, something ( in my opinion the treatment the OL birds are getting, both medicinal and training) is not conjusive to good practice.

A total and utter Cock Up.

Regards.

Don 't quite know here etc Misty whether too just        or maybe even with your last type comment because I'm what you say in your wisdom there is true, sadly. In certain ways, treat babies like babies & they will just behave like babies I've found give them the respect they are due thou & the best of them can do amazing type things on a race track by what I've seen in my time here. Now normal day at the office here on race day through out the race season for the average type local punter Race North on Saturday, toss south 50 odd miles. Sunday day of rest toss North, 60 odd miles etc. Now another now certain cowboy/brave heart  types go West thou at times if looking to test the thrill factor out & go bald/grey in the process     & hopefully get their pigeons thinking outside the box factor & tuned into racing mode looking into the unknown scenario into the future with racing. Now another now a thought here maybe for Jeremy, maybe. Because one could possible say what's good for the goose is good for the gander also type of thing when talking in a O/L racing sense, maybe as yesterday here, for his own reasons (which I fully understand, why) my goose here went West for the first time with his birds to simply smarting his little flock of 600 odd birds up for their 2nd race shortly of 300 odd miles with a toss of 40 odd miles, with the first 30 odd miles there actually over water if they all kept on line to the loft. When a know nothing type here saw what he was up too (the goose)     he said to himself if all plays out as expected with the toss, taking the strong side wind & the water factor into consideration there, they should drop at the home end hopefully on the 60 minute type mark for the first batch. I wish to report thou now I was wrong somehow with my estimation factor I'm as the first mob there of hundreds dropped in on the 56/7 minute mark somehow . So what in the end maybe does that all mean for my gander (your Jeremy there)     Well could I say, maybe just follow the example of a simple Aussie type with your birds there now & stop pussy footing around there & making a complete & utter fool of yourself unfortunately & take them all over to France now maybe the next time you decide to toss them all there for the enjoyment factor . End of the day here     my goose, had 590 odd birds fly there last race here from 200 odd miles   & yesterday he had somehow 600 odd birds under his management fly home in his little toss over our pond/water as such, with most of them on average by their posted times coming on line across the water in the end somehow I suspect    . 
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well what happened to the 2 x 30 miler we are at 40 miles today oh is that north in the wind i see ah that will do then eh north in the wind for the rest of the week so we may get a hotspot afterall

oldstrain wrote:

well what happened to the 2 x 30 miler we are at 40 miles today oh is that north in the wind i see ah that will do then eh north in the wind for the rest of the week so we may get a hotspot afterall

be lucky to have enough birds left, to have a hot spot 1 race , the way things are going .........

our 2 timed in 76 seems to be the one eh ....

wheres it tell you darren............

Yes David I would like to know, been on the site RPRA says to and only showing 51 birds back and ours not amongst vthem.

Delighted they are back but would like to konw how to follow the returns.

Regard.

Had another look on the site David on Benzing just over 800 back which aint bad but apparently a blow home.

At least we are still in with a shout when many are not.

Should now have first race after weeks rest.

Regards.

thanks misty, how many went ...?

........for race tomorrow. No chance with work although the weekend just gone was a washout, probably leave these 11 yb left here until next year now, been an awful season this has.

David wrote:

thanks misty, how many went ...?

Think just over 500 David, oldstrain is the one clued up on the training details I cannot make head nor tails of it.

Just glad our two are OK.

Regards.

my organisation went on friday colin they had a decent race but the central southern classic was awful for returns....regarding the one loft lads i viewed our 2 on the benzing result ,if you type in pigeon world forum at the top in the box on the right hand side our returnees will come up ,it saves going through the whole list atb

MISTY wrote:

David wrote:

thanks misty, how many went ...?

Think just over 500 David, oldstrain is the one clued up on the training details I cannot make head nor tails of it.

Just glad our two are OK.

Regards.

it hard to be exact with jeremy saying he is resting late arrivals yet ours was not eh ,but i reckon theres about 850 ybs left there....i think we will see a hotspot later this week/end as the north wind is with us until at least monday ,my moneys on for a hotspot on sunday or monday

oldstrain wrote:

my organisation went on friday colin they had a decent race but the central southern classic was awful for returns....regarding the one loft lads i viewed our 2 on the benzing result ,if you type in pigeon world forum at the top in the box on the right hand side our returnees will come up ,it saves going through the whole list atb

cheers darren, they just brought the convoy back anyway, be plenty unhappy fanciers but can't help the weather, it's glorious here but rubbish elsewhere.

No wonder our sprot is going to the dogs. Leadership! Blind leading the blind. Fiddling, and arrogant show offs. We have had no chance over the last 20 - 30 years. except watch our beloved game going to the dogs ...

Even many Dog Tracks have gone too.

MISTY wrote:

Had another look  on the site  David on Benzing just over 800 back which aint bad but apparently a blow home.  

At least  we are still in with a shout when many are not.

Should now have first race after weeks rest.

Regards.

A blow home not, I suspect       for the 40 odd birds that come the next day type of thing apparently Misty Been around 250 odd birds there now that have had a night out to this stage, by my count. Few more tosses & we could crack, maybe half of them there being night owls etc . Now     yesterday here     local O/L race had a real belter of a toss into a head type wind from 40 odd miles.  . 600 odd birds, with around 98% home on the day     & a few more this morning there also apparently.

just looked on the rpra web-site and the first hotspot is penciled in for this sunday
29th august