just bought

just bought this bird well placed in the hotspots 13th ace bird
3rd in the final

Hope it works out for you George, not one I would choose to breed from.

Regards,

in the hotspots misty it was
6th
78th
13th
3rd in the final
13 ace bird

George & Morgan wrote:

in the hotspots misty  it was
6th
78th
13th
3rd in the final
13 ace bird

Far better at racing than the majority George.

What you are looking for is breeders of winners and some never win a race in their life, in fact thousands never actually race.

Regards.

i don't have birds like that

worth a change i say george, results were better than most i`d say ......looks a consistent bird which performed pretty decently ......well worth a try

those are good results george and you never know it may breed well,you have tried the non racing well bred route to no avail and personally think you are on the right track and need a bit of luck to find a good breeding pair and breeding off proven racers will narrow the odds ,good luck with the hen

George & Morgan wrote:

just bought this bird well placed in the hotspots 13th ace bird
3rd in the final

What did you actually buy there etc George For me, the eye colour in the photo looks completely different to the one on the pigeon as such .
That being said I'm half blind now & about to have cataract work done on both of my eyes here shortly .

George & Morgan wrote:

in the hotspots misty  it was
6th
78th
13th
3rd in the final
13 ace bird

Certainly, by all accounts George a very honest pigeon come race day it appears, apparently. Wish you well & if in some way it brings enjoyment there to your life in the future it doesn't really matter what others may think I suggest with your purchase.

cost £160 courier £25

George the numbers involved in the races involved are no more than a decent club race.

Taking the opinion that it did well, there are several that did better.

If you believe in eye sign, the eye shown on the photograph would be called pathetic.

There is not nor ever has been a pair of pigeons that breed all winners in good competition.

When fanciers enter OL races they are not after breeders but breed pigeons to win races.

We know, we know, Dick down the road did this and Jack did the other there are exceptions and all kinds of anomolies involved but common sense should be involved and applied.

Chopping and changing reduces the chance of success, no pair of pigeons breed all winners.

Hope things work out George but Rome was not built overnight.

Regards.

i was going on the numbers enter also very few gift you a good bird and very few for sale i have birds that were injured and the owners did not want them back that should have been a warning i only want birds that have been tested should also have said the owner gifted me 2 birds from a olr final so i know the owner and if he was buying it back it was worth buying

a good way to build from george, tried and tested pigeons ........way better than all these adverts in the pigeon books selling untried and untested birds from untried and untested ancestors .....good birds dont always breed good birds, but crap birds rarely breed a good bird .

so you have at least a chance with race tested birds in my humble opinion george .

and i agree David

George & Morgan wrote:

i was going on the numbers enter also very few gift you a good bird and very few for sale i have birds that were injured and the owners did not want them back that should have been a warning i only want birds that have been tested should also have said the owner gifted me 2 birds from a olr final so i know the owner and if he was buying it back it was worth buying

Good, bad or indifferent it was there at the finish etc George so credit due, where credit due I say .

and the velocity over 1600 i have none to do that

is it a cock or a hen george ......?

a hen to put to Darren's bird

George & Morgan wrote:

and the velocity over 1600 i have none to do that

Know I am playing Devils Advocate George but someone has to, to give an all round assessment, no good just having one opinion.

The velocity in real terms means nothing other than the weather was in the pigeons favour, as others were doing similar velocities and above.

Also you are on a hiding to nothing unless you can ensure the pigeons you breed are tested in a proper manner, unless you can you are wasting your time.

Some of the best pigeons have been bred from the last two pigeons paired up after all the BEST had been.

As I have said, Rome was not built in a day and no pair of pigeons breed all winners testing two youngsters off a pair is not any guide to their ability to breed winners.

Would have a sit down George and have a real think what you realy want to do.

Regards.

misty i'm 78 not in a club i just have the birds for company there are no big plans just a few birds to me get be on 35 mls

George & Morgan wrote:

misty i'm 78 not in a club i just have the birds for company there are no big plans just a few birds to me  get be on 35 mls

Can understand your position George believe me.

The pigeons and your cat friend offer a means of comfort and
enjoyment.

Tis a pity you cannot race them yourself, the pigeons not the cat.

Just seems you have not thought out exactly what you intend doing
with the young ones.

Point is, as long as you enjoy what you do is all that matters.

Regards..

that olr final from France may appeal to me

right  misty let me  explain the chap who owned the bird i bought and my friend buy birds from 2 fanciers for olr this fancier had already gifted me free 2 birds from the pride of the potteries olr from a entry of 1500 birds so i know the birds they buy are from 2 good lofts i was told by my friend this was a really good bird so i bought it not just any bird i was told to buy this one it had a reserve of £150 so i had to go to 160 but with a courier fee of 25 i'm happy with that and the 4 birds from olr this year i know they are well bred

best way george, no point buying "paper pigeons" out of the BHW, un tried and un tested .

give it a go george its all fun and games eh,beware of pigeons only doing well in high velocity races but this hen seems consistent so one would think worth a go as it will have good constitution i would think ,so good constitution and consistent is a good platform imo ,good luck george