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philb1133 In egg (newbie)
Posts : 12 Join date : 2010-11-29
| Subject: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:16 pm | |
| Hi what do you do to prepare your stock birds for pairing up feed wise not treatment, Do you increase the feed ,weaken it, add barley or what? Lets hear how you do it. phil |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:39 pm | |
| hi phil, some fanciers have their birds on a winter/resting mix over the winter......then before pairing they go onto a full breeding mix, this is only what ive read/heard so maybe wrong...... at present i have mine on 50/50 super diet and best all round corn, and before breeding i will alter it to some sort of breeding mix....altho im not sure what yet |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:31 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:36 pm | |
| hi ginger, so do you fly all your old birds natural ? no widowhood for any of them ? when you take the bowls away do you close the boxes up too, also when you let them out in all weathers what do they fly like,? do they fly much ?
do you fly the ybs natural or dark ......? |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:45 pm | |
| They fly allright thats becuase they are hawk wise they take off if anything flys over yes I do darken the birds from the 1st of march to 1st june but not so they molt better its becuase i wont send a bird to a race if it is molting its bars thats the only reason i darken |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:55 pm | |
| this year was the first time ive tried darkness, and noticed that they all only moulted the top 2/3rds of the bar..........the bottom part has just moulted now in the big moult. does this happen with all dark birds or just some ? |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:00 pm | |
| just some i had some of my youngsters like that thats why I coudent put them in the show in fact some of my birds went through a second molt |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:04 pm | |
| ginger, do you think distance birds fly better as naturals rather than widowhood/roundabout..........? |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:12 pm | |
| Thats a very diffecult to say some fly that way and get good results and others put them back together for the long ones like I said mine stay that way I get some good results but i get some bad ones as well |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:14 pm | |
| so is it that you have tried widowhood in the past and found they race better as naturals, when i flew widowhood many years ago i always thought it was a waste of potentially good hens. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:55 pm | |
| that is why widowhood is for hens now |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:59 pm | |
| Would put the birds on a good moulting mix then add 40% more barley for a few weeks then pair them up for a few days then seperate for a week but put them on full corn no barley
Helped them to pair up better the 2nd time of asking |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:47 am | |
| birds are now on 80 percent barley and will stay on that until paired and down on eggs |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:32 pm | |
| No I have not tried widowhood and prodaely wont I have allway been natrael like I said be for I get my wins if I didnt get any it would not make any differfrenc as now Iv been there done that and got the tea shirt and it dosent matter to me now as long as I get the birds home these that have to win every race to me they are doing the clubs no good if one cant baet them they will give up pigeons and thats one good to any body win what you want to win and leave the rest to the others that way there will be a club to fly in give and take thats what I say |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:49 pm | |
| hi ginger, why dont you just try half a dozen widowers just to compare them against naturals...? its all part of the excitement. |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:04 pm | |
| No Im quiet happy with what I am doing widowhood or roundabout at the moment dont intrest me one little bit I have flown against these birds they do well but I would like to fly till the end of my day with pigeons I dont want to see any club fold because of it it come day go day Im one of the lucky ones I dont realy have to try a lot of the lads say they dont no howe I get em home I dont no myself but they come for me all I do is go into the loft and pick which ones I want and send them I no Iv given them a chance and ill wait for them and sometimes get dissapionted if they dont come home but thats live |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:09 pm | |
| sounds like an article i read the other week ginger, the man who was also into distance racing said " all his birds were bred for the job, so all he had to do was choose the ones each week who were in condition/on form and they would do the rest" sounds similar to your methods ginger ginger, do you add vitamins/potions etc to the water and corn or is it mainly just clean fresh water and good clean corn.....and keeping the management simple ? |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:15 pm | |
| I do ad a bit of stuf when I think they need it but no regular things for young birds I give them mangosteen three times a week but thats all they get |
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highflyerboy Hatchling
Posts : 314 Join date : 2010-11-04 Location : jarrow
| Subject: feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:42 pm | |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:43 pm | |
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highflyerboy Hatchling
Posts : 314 Join date : 2010-11-04 Location : jarrow
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:43 pm | |
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highflyerboy Hatchling
Posts : 314 Join date : 2010-11-04 Location : jarrow
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:46 pm | |
| av been out beating up at wooler today ian still 2 foot ov snow mate it was a hard day for the dog shes knackered so am i mind you |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:46 pm | |
| hear youve been getting some fantails |
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highflyerboy Hatchling
Posts : 314 Join date : 2010-11-04 Location : jarrow
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:52 pm | |
| aye but just to float a few eggs mate i settled them the day i got them . |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Feeding prior to pairing up Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:55 pm | |
| great feeders fantails and great parents |
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