heres the link to a new program
http://animal.discovery.com/tv/taking-on-tyson/

Birdy a friend i know Johnny Egden known as the hardest white man in Mike Tyson's book, boxed with Tyson when they trained together in the catskill gum under cus d'mota

Johnny helped with building the lofts

well tyson like most famouse sports men had it all but fame today comes to them at a young age and takes over there lifes like footballers they bed hop like mice breed drugs drink gambling they cant handle all that at a young age

never heard ali frazier forman cooper or the likes be like that

They did but it was a different type of fun in there time

Frazier is broke
Foreman returned to boxing
Ali lived on his name (yes he was brilliant)
Cooper lost a lot of his money with lloyds

But will say this about all top sporting heroes if they have never had wealth from the start then yes they can not cope with it as they have never had this type of money before

yeah maybe your right mate money and i think alot of boredom i mean its not like david beckham and posh can walk down the road is it so i guess in away there prisoners in thee own home through fame

Yes birdy your right mate, it's a bit like ricky hatton, quality person brilliant boxer but a shame what he did taking coke

But the bigest problem is as you say boredom once out of the lime light

don, i agree ali was pretty good, but i certainly wouldnt say he was the "greatest" , he beat some decent fighters yes, but he was also beat himself and in my opinion wouldnt have coped with tyson at his best nor would he have beat the likes of larry holmes who was very underated.

Your spot on there mate Larry lived in his shadow, but tyson was the best for me he had everything

Have a 8 disc set of him his life training everything about him to me he was the best and it will be hard or a long time before he is replaced

thats true don, mike tyson at his best would have been very hard to beat.....he should be remembered as one of the best or thee best ever.

Yes your right but i can say this if cus was still alive then mike tyson would be completley different

David when you have a trainer who puts his heart into you and you get that bond between you both then you listen to that person it was the same for me with Ray Green if he said jump i said how high my dad asked me to jump i said Fxxx OFF

yes i agree don, also if his old trainer had still been with him he would have kept up at the top...........rooney he was called wasnt he ...? these people new him and made him what he was but don king got hold of him and he went down hill i think.........

a friend of mine who i have known for 30 years was on sky sports a few months ago with his son who has just turned pro, he looks a good little fighter and i`ll be watching to see how he does in future.............

David the main one was Cus t'marta, and Teddy Atlas, Kevin Rooney came after when Tyson did something which Atlas did not like and cus got rid of him and brought in Rooney

If he trains his son well he will blow the money on Drink as he was an alco and a big gambler

yes i remember teddy atlas being with him when he was an amature.....i did think altas and rooney were both there at the same time tho.............

No mate just as Mike went pro he then Atlas went and rooney came

Must say would have loved to have been trained by Atlas