wonder what eyesign men would make of this one

is that your caterracts g

looks like the pupil is clear, is this the reflection ....?

no david its the birds eye the guy thinks its blind weared aint it looks like it has no iris

thats what crossed my mind too, is it blind....are both eyes like this ?

martyn and don are keen on eyesign, i`ll bet they will be very interested in seeing this.

no just that 1 eye david the bird itself blinks and moves when approached from that side but the picture shows the eye as it is think i once seen 1 where it had been pecked liked that befor spooky looking i think

yes quite possible your right graham....maybe it could have been pecked when young ???

i think jack barkel would be able to tell us more about this if one of us emailed him....

Need to see the pigeon in the flesh Graham but from the picture would say it is the reflection from the camara mate

"But I Know Nothing"

Why don't you ring John and ask him mate he would tell you

don that is how the bird is its not a reflection the guy was asking what people thought it was

Graham i have never seen this before mate so i don't know

No need talking bull when you don't know mate, i would rather tell the truth

one mate so cant comment either lad says its a form of cancer don but i know nothing about eyes

Come to think about it your mate mite be right it could be a form of cancer like a tumur within the pupil itself Graham

We had a horse last year that had a weeping eye, eventually the eye went like the one in the picture where the pupil was clear...the vet said it had an infection and was blind. The horse went on a ourse of antibiotics and the vet said when this happens they wont regain the sight but the weeping and infection would go. Well the vet was wrong because the horse did regain its sight and the pupil clouded over and went back to normal, he said that when you shine a light into the eye and it shines back at you the eye is blind. The horse was blind at first but it came back, so I would say that this birds eye is blind.

email jack barkel don.........

I do study eye sign but this is nothing to do with it, this is a problem with the back of the eye inside which absorbs the light and makes an image or picture, because of infection just like our horses the retina has been damaged and therefor no longer makes an image the nerve can recognise, so its blind, but as with our horse it might come back?

sounds a good theory martyn, very intertesting.......so the birds must have had an infection at some point in its life, wonder how it made this happen ? or would the infection have been in its eye, maybe like one eted cold...?

Not sure david, could have been some type of cold in the eye, but it looks exactly the same to me as the horses eye, and it was just 1 eye, so would be interested to know if the other eye of the this bird is normal, this would confirm my opinion.

think graham said its only the one eye thats like this martyn, so this could back up your theory about the infection.........

he thinksits blind tomartin its only the 1 eye 1 guy thinks its a form of cancer another thinks its to do with breeding another thinks its some form of admortality me i dont know i think its just blind
correctme if im wrong but im sure a lot of dalmations have this where they are blind in 1 eye and there is some kind of agrrement with the kennal club that these be put down im sure i read it or seen it on tv