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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:17 pm | |
| yes gary, we all knew 100,000 signatures wasnt going to be achieved over night didnt we............ |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:26 pm | |
| I know mate, It would have been nice lol. At least what we have achieved up to now has been a victory. We have raised more signatures than some petitions that have been running for almost a year. It must be telling us something. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:30 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:33 pm | |
| - Gaz b wrote:
- I know mate, It would have been nice lol.
At least what we have achieved up to now has been a victory. We have raised more signatures than some petitions that have been running for almost a year. It must be telling us something. it tells me that with the right leadership and run by someone who is genuinely doing it for the hoby of pigeon racing/keeping, good results can be achieved...........keep it going gary 405 now. |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:56 pm | |
| Cheers guys, hopefully get a few more tomorrow. |
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Rene A Youngbird
Posts : 3867 Join date : 2010-01-24 Age : 53 Location : Guernsey
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:06 am | |
| Cheers Rene, no problem mate. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:11 pm | |
| hi gary, has there ever been an on line petition done previously, if so do you know how many signatures it got...? when the scottish unions did a petition how many did they get and do you know how the rpra petition is doing ? |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:40 pm | |
| Many have flopped unsupported, there have been a few well supported ones, but cannot go into much detail.
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm | |
| this is a war between pigeon fanciers and the rspb, and i think all fanciers should realise this..............the rspb must be discredited and exposed for the lies they tell. |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:45 pm | |
| I agree mate, and once this campaign does get going, I will be assassinated by their very clever, well paid, extremely well experienced PR Company, then no doubt I will have tuck tail and hide behind the once mighty RPRA, if they let me. But your right David, this is going to turn into war and one against an extremely powerful, well funded organisation. This is Gary Burgess, typing from a secret location in Outer Mongolia |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:25 pm | |
| They are too busy assassinating the gamekeepers at the mo, and we have cleverly slipped in under the radar. But it wont be long before they get on to it. I'm beginning to get to grips with how they work, let's see how they like it, when it's turned against them. It won't be long before Mark Thomas starts abusing the police force to carry out more of his little raids. It also won't be long before they begging Mr Avery to come and once again fight their corner. Just watch. this is one of their sites http://raptorpolitics.org.uk/2012/02/16/heads-below-the-parapet-rspb-investigations/comment-page-1/#comment-8943 |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:33 pm | |
| the police are not a private security firm available to do the rspb`s enforcement for them, whos paying the police for accompanying them.....? |
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Rene A Youngbird
Posts : 3867 Join date : 2010-01-24 Age : 53 Location : Guernsey
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:21 pm | |
| well done rene, good man...... |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:33 pm | |
| Well done Rene, that's great mate. Well David I have replied to to a blog written by mighty Mark Avery, lets see if it gets put up on his site. http://markavery.info/2011/11/04/why-do-they-do-this/#comment-3399This was my commentA very good Blog Mark, although extremely one sided, I also see you have a great dislike for newspapers who do not post great pictures of the persecuted species for your own gratification. Anyone, who dares to disagree with your well publicised opinions is branded a Raptor Hater. I have read articles referring to yourself as a legend of our time. The UK's No1 Raptor Worshipper. We live on an Island, would you agree? This Island has limited space, would you agree? What happens when a large powerful organisation like the RSPB, yes I did say large powerful organisation. Refuses to listens to hundreds of thousands of other concerned inhabitants. Who raise great concerns about the overpopulation of certain species of Raptors. Alarm bells, siren, warning!! Raptor Hater Alert. Actually, I am not and have done much over the last 25 years to help them and other endangered species, that also inhabit this Island. I am a concerned member of the public, who has over the years, tried to publicise many injustices on this great Island of ours. Maybe in 12 months from now I may be in line for your much publicised The Nature Of Harming Award. Many claims have been made about great concerns about overpopulating our Island with Raptors. But being of the highly educated portion of the population, who is a great authority on all things concerning Raptors, you choose to rubbish any suggestion. You show pictures of small numbers of killed Raptors and suddenly we have turned into a whole Island of Raptor Persecutors, who want to hunt down these magnificent creatures to extinction. Nothing could be any further from the truth. There is a problem and it's a huge problem. You just refuse to hear of it. As our population of pigeon fanciers have been trying to tell the RSPB for the last 20 years, there is a problem. A problem that needs addressing and addressing very soon. You are trying to your best to discredit the pigeon fancier, because he has great concerns. But it's not really a true picture of the pigeon fancier, is it? 4 out of over a hundred thousand. I know that they should not have said what they have said and as a pigeon fancier myself, I do not condone their actions. But I do agree with their concerns. I, on the other hand, am a good natured person, who believes in democracy and will not take matters into my own hands. Instead, I have decided to take your approach and publicise this matter and am currently running a petition, to get our concerns heard. Because I have every faith in the system, that you are currently abusing. If persecution of Raptors, is as widespread as you say, then I am afraid you have caused it. Many people say I am wasting my time, trying to publicise this action, I am not one of them. I do believe with the support of the other unimportant people that reside on this Island, we can make our concerns heard and maybe stop you thinking you are a god like figure, that should be worshipped by the rest of The Raptor Worshipping Community. Kind Regards Gary |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:41 pm | |
| Well done Gary well put letter you will be laybled a raptor hater but I still love you, at least we have some one who will stand up a be herd WELL DONE MATE |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:54 pm | |
| Cheers mate, but they piss me off. They live in this world were nothing else exists. Mark Avery, is a very clever man. He was supposed to have resigned from the RSPB. But little birdies do talk, resigned my ass. I'll keep having digs, using their tactics against them. |
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Ginger Youngbird
Posts : 1419 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 80 Location : Guernsey Channel islands
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:01 pm | |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:44 pm | |
| just read your reply to this person, excellent !!!!......... it makes my blood boil when i think about people like him and his followers, throw him to the pigeon fanciers and watch him scream for his life !!!!! hes a legend to a bunch of cowardly low life`s i wonder if theres any way such as this man could have a visit from defra or the police just like certain pigeon fanciers recently had........ |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:47 am | |
| There is another guy called Mark Thomas RSPB, I have yet to find somewhere in the open to ask him some questions. As he is the guy running the task force on bird crime. He's Mr Avery's successor, different people same polices. We should do a site on facebook the pigeon and songbirds haters. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Fanciers Action Day 8 Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:51 am | |
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