darkness system

i will be trying darkness next year ,so i will be able to compare the 2 and how they fly as yearlings after next year ,should be able to compare but for me natural was just fine unless theres a major improvement when i use darkness it will be natural all the way i think ur all right as long as you no ur limits with them i:e stopping them when they start moulting.i once got told of a wise man not alot remember yb winners but they remember ob that come flying from over the water. but wat the fk do i know pmsl:D 

i think you did well in your first year rick you were right to stick with gazzs system:lol!:   

pmsl g. i can give u the details if u would like  

cheers rick very kind of you but sean already sent um me

no bother g.good luck with them mate:lol!:  

A Lad in our club who I mentioned in another post as he had 7 firsts with 1 pigeon in the old birds, He only breeds 35 ybs then after about 3/4 races stops them always flys natural and wins a few early races, the only one who does natural in the club.
This season he flew every old bird race won the averages and more races than anyone, all the darkness boys who won with the ybs the year before lost all their birds nearly on and struggled through the season including me.
So Natural for me next year defo.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT martin but thats only one club and 1 bird it dosent say alot for the rest to be fair but still a good pigeon to win 7 races

Rudderfett wrote:

A Lad in our club who I mentioned in another post as he had 7 firsts with 1 pigeon in the old birds, He only breeds 35 ybs then after about 3/4 races stops them always flys natural and wins a few early races, the only one who does natural in the club.
This season he flew every old bird race won the averages and more races than anyone, all the darkness boys who won with the ybs the year before  lost all their birds nearly on and struggled through the season including me.
So Natural for me next year defo.

Martin  i was told  that darkies where no good as yearlings thats why i  took mine off after 3 wks and back to natural  the guys also told me if you could keep them off the road till they 2y/olds they do start to fly again  but also you lose a good few   sean

Do YBs need to be motivated when racing ,with OBs you can use the nest box and various conditions to motivate , how do you motivate YBs flying natural.

Cheers andy.

y/b are easy to motivate because its there first year you have to keep eyes on them and work out what they want a simple one is add a perch any where in the section
young hens made jelouse is another there are so many best is keep your eyes open and take advantage of it this is where only keeping a few comes in handy

northern monkey wrote:

Do YBs need to be motivated when racing ,with OBs you can use the nest box and various conditions to motivate , how do you motivate YBs flying natural.

Cheers andy.

pete the hen I won consett with was sitting eggs if she had not been hurt when the cat got in she was set up for ripon and the y/b nat she is still sitting tonight that's 6 wks it aint hard work it out make hay while the sun shines lol sean

seanl wrote:

northern monkey wrote:

Do YBs need to be motivated when racing ,with OBs you can use the nest box and various conditions to motivate , how do you motivate YBs flying natural.

Cheers andy.

pete the  hen I won consett with was sitting eggs if she had not been hurt  when the cat got in she was set up for ripon and the y/b  nat  she is still sitting  tonight that's 6 wks   it aint hard work it out  make hay while the sun shines  lol   sean

Spot on Sean