Aviform Ultimate 7 in 1

Anybody use this , i`m starting to use it from today got some good reviews and thought i would give it a bash ,
looks fairly simple  to give , any other tips on what to give for pigeon health will be welcome   ,this stuff makes some bold claims but think it`s a preventive and a multi vitamin rather than a cure , so would you still treat once a year for the more common things or will this be ok , i`ve only a couple of pair at the moment and no signs of anything , they have been done for paramyxo this year so will it be ok to wait untill next year untill they are done again.    

andy.

Its good stuff. I used it for years and I know people who swear by it.

you get more out of a jar of marmite dont waist your money

birdy2011 wrote:

you get more out of a jar of marmite dont waist your money

Well to late for me birdy i`ve already bought it   what do you use mate and why do you think it`s a waste of money:cheers:  

andy.

EssexSteve wrote:

Its good stuff. I used it for years and I know people who swear by it.

Thats what i`ve been reading as well Steve , a lot of good reviews on it   

andy.

never rated it to be honest...much better things to use out their, 7 in 1  wow that's some statement...as for good reports  you will get them with every pigeon product on the market

oldstrain wrote:

never rated it to be honest...much better things to use out their, 7 in 1  wow that's some statement...as for good reports  you will get them with every pigeon product on the market  

Agree it is a bold claim but i`ll use it and see  what do you use then oldstrain or do you think the birds get all the vitamins they need from there feed ect   

andy

never used this 7 in 1 you mention andy, but i did use the original aviform in the 80`s which was mollassis based.......at the time we thought it was the reason why our pigeons flew so well but they stopped making this fomular and now do the one you speak of.

what sort of price is the 7 in 1, when ive seen it at our corn shop its pretty expensive.

hope it does your birds some good anyway andy. 

David wrote:

never used this 7 in 1 you mention andy, but i did use the original aviform in the 80`s which was mollassis based.......at the time we thought it was the reason why our pigeons flew so well but they stopped making this fomular and now do the one you speak of.

what sort of price is the 7 in 1, when ive seen it at our corn shop its pretty expensive.

hope it does your birds some good anyway andy. 

Cheers David i had it for 8.99 and free postage off a seller on ebay for 500 ml , i have seen it for double the price on the net   any way at 8.99 it will last me a year and i`ll see how it goes, it does make some bold claims but it must do them some good with the vitamins that are in it and i suppose it gives me piece of mind that i`m trying to do the right thing  it`s got a years use by on it sept 2014 so i think it`s a bargain  i don`t want to fill my birds with medicines ect but do want to do a little bit    

andy.

andy don't get me wrong yer on the right track as far as yer mind set is concerned and wanting to give yer birds a natural supplement to help support their well being  the thing to remember is that you are not racing at present and when you do your birds will be under more pressure and exsposure to pathogens that are harmful due to clowns sending pigeons to the races that are carrying ailments ..their are only so many days in the week and to give everything on the market would be impossible lol and you will find most companys give a weekly programme of their products and claiming wonders by the use of it and top fliers claiming they use the same products £££  

pm sent

oldstrain wrote:

andy don't get me wrong yer on the right track as far as yer mind set is concerned and wanting to give yer birds a natural supplement to help support their well being  the thing to remember is that you are not racing at present and when you do your birds will be under more pressure and exsposure to pathogens that are harmful due to clowns sending pigeons to the races that are carrying ailments ..their are only so many days in the week and to give everything on the market would be impossible lol and you will find most companys give a weekly programme of their products and claiming wonders by the use of it and top fliers claiming they use the same products £££  

pm sent

Darren thank you mate , great info and it is very much appreciated  
all the best mate and thanks.

andy.

your welcome mate

oldstrain wrote:

your welcome mate

you have a PM mate.

northern monkey wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

your welcome mate

you have a PM mate.

replied mate

i tried it ,no good for us i thought but we tried a few things this season and nothing helped lol...maybe we,ll try it again next season

oldstrain wrote:

never rated it to be honest...much better things to use out their, 7 in 1  wow that's some statement...as for good reports  you will get them with every pigeon product on the market  

OS, I always become rather amused   when I see these type of concoctions etc "How much" at the end of the day do the birds actually get out of a spoon full type of of thing, if you put it in the water or on the food. I still remember, even today     a magic potion I once saw for the birds. 120 herbs & goodies it had in the mix   & it just about gauranteed you would become a champion etc if you used it. "Unfortunately"     I did not follow there advise. So !!!!!!     I'm still waiting to become one of the champions in the sport  .  
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Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

never rated it to be honest...much better things to use out their, 7 in 1  wow that's some statement...as for good reports  you will get them with every pigeon product on the market  

OS, I always become rather amused   when I see these type of concoctions etc "How much" at the end of the day do the birds actually get out of a spoon full type of of thing, if you put it in the water or on the food. I still remember, even today     a magic potion I once saw for the birds. 120 herbs & goodies it had in the mix   & it just about gauranteed you would become a champion etc if you used it. "Unfortunately"     I did not follow there advise. So !!!!!!     I'm still waiting to become one of the champions in the sport  .  
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  you have hit the nail on the head traves

oldstrain wrote:

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

never rated it to be honest...much better things to use out their, 7 in 1  wow that's some statement...as for good reports  you will get them with every pigeon product on the market  

OS, I always become rather amused   when I see these type of concoctions etc "How much" at the end of the day do the birds actually get out of a spoon full type of of thing, if you put it in the water or on the food. I still remember, even today     a magic potion I once saw for the birds. 120 herbs & goodies it had in the mix   & it just about gauranteed you would become a champion etc if you used it. "Unfortunately"     I did not follow there advise. So !!!!!!     I'm still waiting to become one of the champions in the sport  .  
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  you have hit the nail on the head traves

Magic potions     Down here !!!!!! there lined up every monday morning type of thing at Dr Spock's clinic (******) & he has a big smile on his face as he takes all there money (another house) is all he pictures etc. Sad as it is    their still loosing there birds by the truck load most of them. They still keep looking thou    . Good for a laugh   for those that wised up years ago, one could say.  
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lol traves...liquid gold for the makers of these products

oldstrain wrote:

lol traves...liquid gold for the makers of these products

True !!!!!! OS   Here is another little story etc "Hot of the press" which may give you a smile type of thing. Last night here, the phone rang    & I picked it up & dropped it straight away as I was  because there was steam coming out of it so to speak. "The little fat bloke" rang   & I had to tell him to calm down as he is still is getting over his heart attack etc.One story he told me, was about 3 of the guru's here "best of the best" if you believe them when they talk about racing their birds. Today's race is on the nose & they all decided not to fly etc in there wisdom & that really got up my mates nose. "Enough said " Now !!!!!!!   "How to make a man poor" He told me about another mate he has (Fly's a good pigeon) an old clubmate of mine, who I have a lot of respect for etc. He just happened to ring
Dr Spock (******)    & said can you help me "Certainly he said"   come on down & bring 2 birds with you & I will get the knife out & see what I can find    End of the day "Mr expert" found absolutely nothing wrong what so ever with the 2 birds. Unfortunately" I'm now having trouble here     my old clubmate walked out of the clinic, with an empty basket & $400 less in his pocket     .  
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I never use anything in the water or otherwise unless its natural, like garlic and honey, although I give my birds all winter and moult time brewers yeast and a vit e supplement from America which is just to stimulate the olders cocks for fertility.
However I used to use aviform the black molasses type ears ago, cant say if it did anything but wasn't bad for the either.
Im just a believer in good pigeons which will fly on fresh water and chicken feed.

Rudderfett wrote:

I never use anything in the water or otherwise unless its natural, like garlic and honey, although I give my birds all winter and moult time brewers yeast and a vit e supplement from America which is just to stimulate the olders cocks for fertility.
However I used to use aviform the black molasses type ears ago, cant say if it did anything but wasn't bad for the either.
Im just a believer in good pigeons which will fly on fresh water and chicken feed.

I have the impression etc Rudd !!!!   the spin doctors out there   , will have to walk across water so to speak, to take your money.  
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 The only money I do spend is buying pigeons trying to get better ones....However it seems my best pigeons keep coming free, and cheap, so money cant but the best...SOMETIMES.

Years ago my best breeding pair was a pair of Irish strays, but they don't come along too often....lol

the pigeons are there martin its finding them and a trusted seller or mate

theres a saying if you have to look at something twice its not for you class sells itself