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PostSubject: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 10:34 am

Hi lads its been a while. Im gutted I let me birds go down early this year to try get ahead of the pack as ive only a small set up comparing to others, I thought I was doing well untill I went out this morning only to find the nests of four birds wrecked and four cocks at logger heads, all was fine untill now but it seems these two cocks want two nests each as they are in fighting other cocks. As ive said small loft and stuck for room so I know this could be my problem. Anyway I guess its back to drawing board for me Embarassed has anyone else had this and what was the solution cheers lads.
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 11:43 am

lock the fighting cock in the nest box with a furry toy don't think he will go back in it



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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 11:51 am

or put a bit of string around the legs of the troublesome cock and put him in the nest box he is raiding with the cock who is resident to that box and let the raiding cock take a bit of stick from the resident cock ...bet he don't go back in after he has had a seeing to but sometimes you get a real troublemaker who just wont settle and they are more trouble than worth as they upset the whole section ...how many pairs into what size section do you have joe  Question as you will never settle them if theirs not enough room jmo but they need space especialy if they don't fly out ...this is down to the fancier and no fault of the birds jmo can you not put a few pairs to rear in the yb section which should be empty maybe put 3 pairs in their and let them nest on the floor if you have no boxes
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 12:06 pm

I had no trouble last year lads ye your right about space I know that im building new loft next month I might just have to wait untill its build to start breeding, just heart breaking to see that mess this morning ive two dominant cocks causing trouble, ill try moving them today to yb section. Cheers lads back to square one im sick as a  pig 
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 12:21 pm

don't worry joe plenty time to pair up yet m8 a lot are going back to the old ways ...no darkness and breeding in febuary and later...if ya want to darken you still have plenty time another 3 weeks or so and if you put troublemakers in the yb loft close spare boxes and they will go down again in no time at all
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 12:22 pm

that's another 3to 5 weeks to re-pair and ybs still go on dark
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 12:25 pm

joe I had the same problem read about the furry toy lock him in the box with the toy for 5 mins he never went back to the box
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 12:41 pm

Ill try the fury toy trick sounds like the job alright never heard of it tho cheers, im going natural again this year to many ppl talking about having trouble with sickness on darkness, I just thought start early to get ahead to get a descent team together as ive small loft at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 1:16 pm

dont leave nest box fronts on, its easy for the resident cock to eject the intruder, if you find 1 in wrong box gently pull him out with his leg,he should get the message after a time or two, if it still persists , give it a bloody good hiding it wont do it again, some times cocks that dont learn are a bloody newsence and probably best removed as they will continue to upset the rest, andthat will just not do, good luck cheers 
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Ha ha edgie like ur style I think I might have to remove this one hes persistent in his quest just tryed fury toy ill try it again in a bit but hes back in now, I dident pay them this mucch attention last year and I had no problems with breeding, I think I might just give them a day or so to see if they sort it then ill take action.
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 1:36 pm

ive little time for troublesome cks, think they should show more intrest
in their own box and not the one next door. best removed and move on
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joe wheelo wrote:
Ill try the fury toy trick sounds like the job alright never heard of it tho cheers, im going natural again this year to many ppl talking about having trouble with sickness on darkness, I just thought start early to get ahead to get a descent team together as ive small loft at the moment.

just time it right joe so they not to far in the moult when yer racing ...I would go natural until at least you got yer old bird team established
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PostSubject: Re: cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs   cocks fighting over bowls and smashed 8 eggs EmptySun Jan 12, 2014 3:03 pm

I think your right oldstrain it seems to be the sensible option , I was thinking of just racing yb this year a handfull of races and then with new loft next year and a few races under there belt I would be in a better position patience is a virtue im learning
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dont leave nest box fronts on, its easy for the resident cock to eject the intruder, if you find 1 in wrong box gently pull him out with his leg,he should get the message after a time or two, if it still persists , give it a bloody good hiding it wont do it again, some times cocks that dont learn are a bloody newsence and probably best removed as they will continue to upset the rest, andthat will just not do, good luck cheers 



Of the many things that rile me with pigeons  Wink  Wink these type of cocks make my blood boil "Big time" just like you have Joe. Truth be told !!! Edgie's way  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad is the only way at times & unfortunately  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  there has been the odd occassion here, where an ambulance has had to be called in, I'm  affraid .  cheers
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