million dollar race final today

it don't bother me at all who makes what money ...not in the slightest I am more concerned with getting my own ship ready for sail ....but one loft races are a great selling point for the winner and no doubt a lot of crap will be sold by that loft on the back of the winner and its a great money spinner for the organisers ie fees and sponsorship ...if none of us commented it would be a very boring site would it not
we are all here to look at others opinions whether we agree or not is irrelative its a chat site ...a lot of fun has gone from pigeon racing but thankfully not here   

well done to my mate he has 2 home in uk section think he sent 3

birdy2011 wrote:

well done to my mate he has 2 home in uk section think he sent 3

fair play good going that

Rudderfett wrote:

I have to disagree with most of you here, you don't have to race in a one loftS its a choice, you don't even have to look at the sites or follow the results.
If you don't like them then don't talk about them and just forget they exist.

If people want to enter O.L.R and I for one have and do then we can spend our money where we like and if its a waste of money that is our problem. If they serve to keep pigeon racing alive and in the spot light with large payouts and big names, then for me its good for the sport, there is no such thing as bad PUBLICITY.

One thing I have noticed about this site lately is that there are an awfull lot of moaning old farts, lets talk about positive things and about serious subjects like racing pigeons.

well said that man

oldstrain wrote:

it don't bother me at all who makes what money ...not in the slightest I am more concerned with getting my own ship ready for sail ....but one loft races are a great selling point for the winner and no doubt a lot of crap will be sold by that loft on the back of the winner and its a great money spinner for the organisers ie fees and sponsorship ...if none of us commented it would be a very boring site would it not
we are all here to look at others opinions whether we agree or not is irrelative its a chat site ...a lot of fun has gone from pigeon racing but thankfully not here   

having read you previous posts i am struggling to understand where you are coming from

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

it don't bother me at all who makes what money ...not in the slightest I am more concerned with getting my own ship ready for sail ....but one loft races are a great selling point for the winner and no doubt a lot of crap will be sold by that loft on the back of the winner and its a great money spinner for the organisers ie fees and sponsorship ...if none of us commented it would be a very boring site would it not
we are all here to look at others opinions whether we agree or not is irrelative its a chat site ...a lot of fun has gone from pigeon racing but thankfully not here   

having read you previous posts i am struggling to understand where you are coming from

well I have always struggled to know where your coming from each and everyone of your posts is a criticism but you cant please everyone   maybe if you were to share your worldly knowledge with me I might say you had a point of view that was worth listening to but until such time your posts are ignored as soon as they are read  

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

it don't bother me at all who makes what money ...not in the slightest I am more concerned with getting my own ship ready for sail ....but one loft races are a great selling point for the winner and no doubt a lot of crap will be sold by that loft on the back of the winner and its a great money spinner for the organisers ie fees and sponsorship ...if none of us commented it would be a very boring site would it not
we are all here to look at others opinions whether we agree or not is irrelative its a chat site ...a lot of fun has gone from pigeon racing but thankfully not here   

having read you previous posts i am struggling to understand where you are coming from

well I have always struggled to know where your coming from each and everyone of your posts is a criticism but you cant please everyone   maybe if you were to share your worldly knowledge with me I might say you had a point of view that was worth listening to but until such time  your posts are ignored as soon as they are read  

just a few posts ago you were inferring that backhanders were involved and that it was all about making money !! and as was said we are all here to look at others opinions--- not throw the rattle out the pram when opinions differ

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

it don't bother me at all who makes what money ...not in the slightest I am more concerned with getting my own ship ready for sail ....but one loft races are a great selling point for the winner and no doubt a lot of crap will be sold by that loft on the back of the winner and its a great money spinner for the organisers ie fees and sponsorship ...if none of us commented it would be a very boring site would it not
we are all here to look at others opinions whether we agree or not is irrelative its a chat site ...a lot of fun has gone from pigeon racing but thankfully not here   

having read you previous posts i am struggling to understand where you are coming from

well I have always struggled to know where your coming from each and everyone of your posts is a criticism but you cant please everyone   maybe if you were to share your worldly knowledge with me I might say you had a point of view that was worth listening to but until such time  your posts are ignored as soon as they are read  

just a few posts ago you were inferring that backhanders were involved and that it was all about making money !! and as was said we are all here to look at others opinions--- not throw the rattle out the pram when opinions differ

yes but when every post is slagging off tom dick and harry it gets a bit tiresome ...I don't mind people not agreeing with me but when someone just sits back waiting to
jump onto others posts with criticism and don't actualy have a opinion on anything or have any positive input then I cant realy take that persons mentality seriously I think if you were to be more constructive then I would appreciate your point of view

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

it don't bother me at all who makes what money ...not in the slightest I am more concerned with getting my own ship ready for sail ....but one loft races are a great selling point for the winner and no doubt a lot of crap will be sold by that loft on the back of the winner and its a great money spinner for the organisers ie fees and sponsorship ...if none of us commented it would be a very boring site would it not
we are all here to look at others opinions whether we agree or not is irrelative its a chat site ...a lot of fun has gone from pigeon racing but thankfully not here   

having read you previous posts i am struggling to understand where you are coming from

well I have always struggled to know where your coming from each and everyone of your posts is a criticism but you cant please everyone   maybe if you were to share your worldly knowledge with me I might say you had a point of view that was worth listening to but until such time  your posts are ignored as soon as they are read  

just a few posts ago you were inferring that backhanders were involved and that it was all about making money !! and as was said we are all here to look at others opinions--- not throw the rattle out the pram when opinions differ

yes but when every post is slagging off tom dick and harry it gets a bit tiresome ...I don't mind people not agreeing with me but when someone just sits back waiting to
jump onto others posts with criticism and don't actualy have a opinion on anything or have any positive input then I cant realy take that persons mentality seriously I think if you were to be more constructive then I would appreciate your point of view

i would be grateful if you could itemise my posts that have slagged either tom , dick , or harry.
i have been involved in what i consider a good bit of banter with big(and i mean big) seanl but never saw anything back from him that was not of the same ilk----could it be that you are a touch too sensitive and seem to end your own posts by insulting those who dont share your opinion ?

not at all as stated I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say
you learn nothing that way I just don't like people who are not constrtive and choose to sit back and judge others without actualy having any input themselves
of which you have had none whatsoever ...good evening sir   

oldstrain wrote:

not at all as stated I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say
you learn nothing that way I just don't like people who are not constrtive and choose to sit back and judge others without actualy having any input themselves
of which you have had none whatsoever ...good evening sir   

no change there then, make a criticism and then end with an insult    

northroadracer wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

GRIZZLECOCK wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

who was the winning german loft

Hi Darren,The only winners in these "1 loft" setups are the scheming boys who organize them,same old names,same old faces.if they can milk money out the pigeon game they will,

Must agree but it's the same with almost everything

why do a lot of the members on this site spend so much time moaning about what money other people may or may not make out of pigeons ? just curious

I have not found that to be the case N/R/Racer here, to be honest. Perhapes !!!! I just have a differant mindset to you   . In relation to the
S A race in question here I do not have a problem with those that wish to fly in them type of races etc if that is their desire. I do have concerns thou with the way the pigeons are managed there in the race in question. History tells us a sorry tale of misfortune for most of the birds unfortunately over many years. One would presume ????? & seeing as they are the best of the best type of thing the results would be far better than what history tells us etc. As a final note !! Would you like to give me your thought's etc on why they feed & water the birds on the day of release as seem's to be the the case there at times "Just curious" what your thought's may be on that issue. 

[quote="Knackered"]

northroadracer wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

GRIZZLECOCK wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

who was the winning german loft

Hi Darren,The only winners in these "1 loft" setups are the scheming boys who organize them,same old names,same old faces.if they can milk money out the pigeon game they will,

Must agree but it's the same with almost everything

why do a lot of the members on this site spend so much time moaning about what money other people may or may not make out of pigeons ? just curious

I have not found that to be the case N/R/Racer here, to be honest. Perhapes !!!! I just have a differant mindset to you   . In relation to the
S A race in question here I do not have a problem with those that wish to fly in them type of races etc if that is their desire. I do have concerns thou with the way the pigeons are managed there in the race in question. History tells us a sorry tale of misfortune for most of the birds unfortunately over many years. One would presume ????? & seeing as they are the best of the best type of thing the results would be far better than what history tells us etc. As a final note !! Would you like to give me your thought's etc on why they feed & water the birds on the day of release as seem's to be the the case there at times "Just curious" what your thought's may be on that issue. [/quote

the one loft race is not something that i would participate in but surely it is entirely up to the fanciers to decide if they want to enter, dont believe for a minute that the organisers want anything but the best for the birds and if they are fed prior to release i would assume that the owners would have known in advance that is what is done, my guess is that if all birds returned from the last race then everyone would complain that it was not a real test and most probably selling 3000 birds would be a nightmare and harsh as it may seem the financial implications would come into play, in all honesty how many birds if tested in this country will reach 3 or 4 years of age ? not many.
hope i have given my opinion in a clear and uninsulting way

there are 2000 birds still at the old site they have been instructed to move the birds and lofts many birds have returned that dont go to the sale what then is there fate
do the owners know do they care na i dont think so just look for next years races

but thats there choice there money

northroadracer wrote:

Knackered wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

GRIZZLECOCK wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

who was the winning german loft

Hi Darren,The only winners in these "1 loft" setups are the scheming boys who organize them,same old names,same old faces.if they can milk money out the pigeon game they will,

Must agree but it's the same with almost everything

why do a lot of the members on this site spend so much time moaning about what money other people may or may not make out of pigeons ? just curious

I have not found that to be the case N/R/Racer here, to be honest. Perhapes !!!! I just have a differant mindset to you   . In relation to the
S A race in question here I do not have a problem with those that wish to fly in them type of races etc if that is their desire. I do have concerns thou with the way the pigeons are managed there in the race in question. History tells us a sorry tale of misfortune for most of the birds unfortunately over many years. One would presume ????? & seeing as they are the best of the best type of thing the results would be far better than what history tells us etc. As a final note !! Would you like to give me your thought's etc on why they feed & water the birds on the day of release as seem's to be the the case there at times "Just curious" what your thought's may be on that issue. [/quote

the one loft race is not something that i would participate in but surely it is entirely up to the fanciers to decide if they want to enter, dont believe for a minute that the organisers want anything but the best for the birds and if they are fed prior to release i would assume that the owners would have known in advance that is what is done, my guess is that if all birds returned from the last race then everyone would complain that it was not a real test and most probably selling 3000 birds would be a nightmare and harsh as it may seem the financial implications would come into play, in all honesty how many birds if tested in this country will reach 3 or 4 years of age ? not many.
hope i have given my opinion in a clear and uninsulting way

Excepted !!!!!!     "Uninsulting way"    Much is true in what you say in regards to our birds N/R/R. No differant thou     to such things as horse racing/dogs etc as many of them, fall by the wayside & never reach retirement age "Unfortunately".   
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This post with the quotes and innuendoes sounds almost like its written in code, I can hardly understand what your all on about, so plain English lads.

What your all trying to say is that its cruel and when in the final, 50 or so birds come back the rest have their necks stretched to feed the ferret.

Well that's what happens all over the world to all sorts of creatures everyday, its a cruel world, just remember that at Christmas when you tuck into the turkey as they only live a few months and don't have a good life like pigeons do.

Rudderfett wrote:

This post with the quotes and innuendoes sounds almost like its written in code, I can hardly understand what your all on about, so plain English lads.

What your all trying to say is that its cruel and when in the final, 50 or so birds come back the rest have their necks stretched to feed the ferret.

Well that's what happens all over the world to all sorts of creatures everyday, its a cruel world, just remember that at Christmas when you tuck into the turkey as they only live a few months and don't have a good life like pigeons do.

Code !!!!!! Rudd    I thought it was all in plain simple english type of thing    here. Unless !!!!! we have been taken over by the Chinese now & there is a secret code in what is written that we all just don't understand. Now !!!!!     not really into the turkey thing, but we all love our chickens here "KFC" & there is many of them that leed a very short life     compared to our pigeons.   
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