photo for ray

hi ray this is one of my darker grizzle

wow, lovely grizzle sue.......nice looking bird, how has it done racing ? did you take the pic of the eye with a normal digital camera.......?

thanks david, yes i used a 10 meg pix camera
he only raced 3 races last year wanted to keep for stock but came 3rd and 4th club

thats the thing sue, when they do well racing for you its hard to know weather to keep back for stock or continue to race them........i havnt got that problem yet.

if its acock that has done well as youngbird i would race the following year on widowhood why put to stock if you have the parents who bred then you can get another

i maybe wouldnt put to stock and never race again if a bird had raced well, but if raced as widowood i would cirtainly breed from him before he raced again.............

the reason i stocked him is i want to breed from him get some yb and may be race him again as a two year old i havent been racing long and dont want to loose my good birds before i get some young off them

yes i see your point sue, like i say i havnt got any which have raced for me yet so dont have the problem, but when/i i do find any whch race well i will certainly make sure i breed off them to maybe get a good yb from them.........if by any chance i get a bird which does really well i dont think i would dare risk racing it again.....

yes sue thats all you can do when starting off breed off winners youll sharp get a good team with this method

sue, do you pair winner to winner/ best to best when you choose the pairings....?

yes but as i only have a few winners i just let the other stock choose thereselfs

lovely sue,i,ve always liked the grizzels,thanks for showing me

done well with the picture too sue, have heard the feet are the hardest thing to do........dont know if its true tho.

the feet are tricky but you just zoom right in takes a little practice

lovely bird sue very good pic you done there all the best to you and pete this coming season hope you both have a good season

all the best
klaus
nikki

good breeding cluster in eye, good idea putting him in stock hope he breeds many winners

steve1952 wrote:

good breeding cluster in eye, good idea putting him in stock hope he breeds many winners

didnt know you were an eyesign man steve........... have you chosen your pairings this year on eyesign ?

dont know much of eyesign, but was told to look for circle with clusters for breeders, havent paired up with eye, keeping most pure breeds this year then crossing best next

ah right, i have an interest in eyes but dont put too much faith into it.......basically i like to pair a weaker eye to a stronger eye but if its not possible im not too bothered........weak and strong eyes in my view is based more on iris than the second circle round the pupil.....

but when buying i havent checked for clusters, but find it an interesting subject, a lot dont believe in it

i know nothing

steve1952 wrote:

but when buying i havent checked for clusters, but find it an interesting subject, a lot dont believe in it

i think martyn (rudderfet) has similar ideas to what you are saying steve, he has been told by an old fancier that good breeders all have the same thing in the eye.......he wont tell us exactly what it is but as far as i can remember it could be similar to what you are saying..............

look at eye of grizzle in 1 of posts here, pupil then a circle round it, in this circle about 4 oclock is dark cluster of good breeders, then theres other lines in it aswell

Sue very nice pigeon and a good one of the eye also