HOW MANY prize winners

Thanks david, not 1 of mine wish it was..lol

My clubs the smallest in our town but its the hardest to win....

no offence meant ray their are exceptions m8 I appreciate that atb

But i myself still have a few winners in my loft.so before i get put down i mean birds that have done well in fed sections and combine apart from the club results

Sorry the answer to the question is i have about 10 winners in my loft at present

I think the answer to this question, doesn't reflect the quality in the loft if answered correctly.
I will explain...When I first started back anything which did well went into the stock loft because I had un tested stock, the better racers I bred with the more chance I had of breeding better birds. As time goes by you often stock a brilliant racer, that way you end up with more prize winners in the loft because they are not raced and ultimately lost.

A good flyer in our area and a good friend who wins more feds, sections and firsts than anyone I know has less winners in the loft than I do.
And If asked this question he would fair far worst than anyone, why? BECAUSE he races everything week in week out wins lots and looses lots?

I care less for cards and more for good pigeons that's why I stock the best pigeons and concentrate on breeding. He wants to be at the top every week what ever the cost so breeds lots races lots and looses lots.
So although this question gives a clue to who has good pigeons it isn't the whole story and can be misleading.

the question was how many do you have in your loft not them thats been lost we can all add the winners we have lost me included

hi g unfortunatly there is more pigeon keepers than pigeon racers, but not many will admit it.

edgie wrote:

hi g unfortunatly there is more pigeon keepers than pigeon racers, but not many will admit it.

Very true in what you say Steve etc in regards to many of us being pigeon keepers. Especially       when you get old like me. Sad as it is many of the pigeon racer types, forget unfortunately that its the pigeon keeper brigade that is the backbone of our sport, at least in my view & as they chase the glory/money at any cost, us battlers unfortunately are left to drown & as such the sport is dying "Big time" in most areas.
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Knackered wrote:

edgie wrote:

hi g unfortunatly there is more pigeon keepers than pigeon racers, but not many will admit it.

Very true in what you say Steve etc in regards to many of us being pigeon keepers. Especially       when you get old like me. Sad as it is many of the pigeon racer types, forget unfortunately that its the pigeon keeper brigade that is the backbone of our sport, at least in my view & as they chase the glory/money at any cost, us battlers unfortunately are left to drown & as such the sport is dying "Big time" in most areas.
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well said totally agree with you 100%

lol mint..again our clubs the cheapest in the town.yet we have the least members. the least prize money and i wonder why,because like you say most chase the money .if i was in this sport for money i would have packed in years ago.haha

I also agree there are more pigeon keepers and thank god for them too, as without them the sport would be dead.
I know what the question was and I was just pointing out that the question can be misleading because you loose pigeons, so you can have great season with lots of winners but if your a man who races all races and all birds you might just end up with no winners in the loft.

sorry rudd i miss read your post and yes many winners get lost from across the water many multiple winners and we have a few members who send all thats in the loft and they do loose birds weather they were fit enough i dont know thats there choice and maybe no fault of the birds

Rudderfett wrote:

I also agree there are more pigeon keepers and thank god for them too, as without them the sport would be dead.
I know what the question was and I was just pointing out that the question can be misleading because you loose pigeons, so you can have  great season with lots of winners but if your a man who races all races and all birds you might just end up with no winners in the loft.

Pigeon keepers or pigeon racers, we all have a place in this sport I suspect. Strange thing thou on a yearly basis etc we all line up together side by side to get our yearly issue of rings even thou some like to gild the lily in relation to their losses. Now !!!. Winners will always be the minority of birds bred "mathermatical equation" when one thinks about it, so if & when we get one they are rather unique in the over all big picture.
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None taken......lol
Yes your right maths do come into it, considering 10 old bird races that 10 winners not that many really.

Knackered wrote:

Rudderfett wrote:

I also agree there are more pigeon keepers and thank god for them too, as without them the sport would be dead.
I know what the question was and I was just pointing out that the question can be misleading because you loose pigeons, so you can have  great season with lots of winners but if your a man who races all races and all birds you might just end up with no winners in the loft.

Pigeon keepers or pigeon racers, we all have a place in this sport I suspect. Strange thing thou on a yearly basis etc we all line up together side by side to get our yearly issue of rings even thou some like to gild the lily in relation to their losses. Now !!!. Winners will always be the minority of birds bred "mathermatical equation" when one thinks about it, so if & when we get one they are rather unique in the over all big picture.
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fair comment that oz...."liking the phrase gild the lilly" that's a cracker

we have 15 winners some with 2'3'4 wins in race loft out of 64 but 48 have been in 1st 6 in club and 17 in stock loft and when they get putin stock loft they got 2 year to bred somethink good