Race baskets etc

One does not wish to hang out dirty washing as such but the sport here is in turmoil sadly, unfortunately. It's all about the way we transport our birds to the races etc & the way some see the way foreward in the future as such. So my query is, how many birds do you place in your baskets in the short races compared to the longer ones & what do you place on the floor of them for the birds comfort & on average what is the life span of the baskets being used if they are of a plastic type senario & what is the feeding/water arrangement's & also  what is the release mechanism upon liberation, so all birds go as one.

in our club oz we put 18 hens and 16 cocks for inland races 16 hens and 14 cocks for water races that's for two nights in the basket on the floor we have news paper underneath a wire grill basket size around 20" wide by 34" long by 10" high approx baskets made from wood with ply bottoms wooden front drop door wire to the rear and a 2" gap down both sides for water and feed

markevans wrote:

in our club oz we put 18 hens and 16 cocks for inland races 16 hens and 14 cocks for water races that's for two nights in the basket on the floor we have news paper underneath a wire grill basket size around 20" wide by 34" long by 10" high approx baskets made from wood with ply bottoms wooden front drop door wire to the rear and a 2" gap down both sides for water and feed

Interesting Mark etc . The situation here is some have put their faith in a piss pot who is telling us here, he is building a transporter, to the best of European standards "What ever that is" & from what I've seen it's being built on his front lawn & only at weekends sadly & will be ready by late May when we start racing. The believers told us only a few weeks ago here, included would be a trailer also for 2000 birds, bur sadly that's turned into fairyland con, unfortunately .

Knackered wrote:

markevans wrote:

in our club oz we put 18 hens and 16 cocks for inland races 16 hens and 14 cocks for water races that's for two nights in the basket on the floor we have news paper underneath a wire grill basket size around 20" wide by 34" long by 10" high approx baskets made from wood with ply bottoms wooden front drop door wire to the rear and a 2" gap down both sides for water and feed

Interesting Mark etc . The situation here is some have put their faith in a piss pot who is telling us here, he is building a transporter, to the best of European standards "What ever that is" & from what I've seen it's being built on his front lawn & only at weekends sadly & will be ready by late May when we start racing. The believers told us only a few weeks ago here, included would be a trailer also for 2000 birds, bur sadly that's turned into fairyland con, unfortunately .

is he knocking it up out of some old pallets and fence panels sounds like someones gonna make a few £'s out of the deal ...our transporter has steel frame and timber crates holding 16 birds in each crate they have corrugated cardboard on the floors changed every race...our north road club puts horse bedding in the crates and use wicker baskets 18 birds to a crate...when we go across the channel we go with another fed and they have wire grills in the crates ... all watering and feeding is done through a corridor in the middle of the trailer.hope yer man knows what he is doing oz as these trailers can be quite a complexed design when all things are considered ...airflow,dryness,feeding and watering ,loading and releasing the birds

inland racing 25 to a wicker pannier across the water 20 to a pannier each bird has more room than stipulated by defra shavings on floor

oldstrain wrote:

Knackered wrote:

markevans wrote:

in our club oz we put 18 hens and 16 cocks for inland races 16 hens and 14 cocks for water races that's for two nights in the basket on the floor we have news paper underneath a wire grill basket size around 20" wide by 34" long by 10" high approx baskets made from wood with ply bottoms wooden front drop door wire to the rear and a 2" gap down both sides for water and feed

Interesting Mark etc . The situation here is some have put their faith in a piss pot who is telling us here, he is building a transporter, to the best of European standards "What ever that is" & from what I've seen it's being built on his front lawn & only at weekends sadly & will be ready by late May when we start racing. The believers told us only a few weeks ago here, included would be a trailer also for 2000 birds, bur sadly that's turned into fairyland con, unfortunately .

is he knocking it up out of some old pallets and fence panels sounds like someones gonna make a few £'s out of the deal ...our transporter has steel frame and timber crates holding 16 birds in each crate they have corrugated cardboard on the floors changed every race...our north road club puts horse bedding in the crates and use wicker baskets 18 birds to a crate...when we go across the channel we go with another fed and they have wire grills in the crates ... all watering and feeding is done through a corridor in the middle of the trailer.hope yer man knows what he is doing oz as these trailers can be quite a complexed design when all things are considered ...airflow,dryness,feeding and watering ,loading and releasing the birds

I understand where your coming from O/S but this is serious business etc as I have this thought "The best Europeon practice" will have a made in China sticker on the new baskets as such along with the workmanship . Senile is the word mentioned by many here as too the bloke expecting us to have faith with what he is doing & it sort of reminds me of a good catholic preacher down here called Pell's, who was shunted off to Rome for everyone's benefit ???, but we are told just to have faith etc as everything is under control.

Those last Couple of words worry me knackered " everything's under control" mmm, famous last words comes to mind.

Lofty wrote:

Those last Couple of words worry me knackered " everything's under control" mmm, famous last words comes to mind.

Faith/under control     can only carry you so far Lofty I've found. Especially when it's only 3 months to our first race here etc .

I think ours have 18 / 19 in them, and horse bedding is used on the floor......we clip the drinkers on while basketing, then remove them while we seal the crates up and load onto the wagon.....

David wrote:

I think ours have 18 / 19 in them, and horse bedding is used on the floor......we clip the drinkers on while basketing, then remove them while we seal the crates up and load onto the wagon.....

32/28 size baskets have been mentioned here David, depending on the distance & I'm expected to jump up on a ramp etc 4ft of the ground & place some above my head as such  in the racks on this new truck. My mate "Little fat bloke" would have to carry a ladder with him to do it I suspect come basket night, sadly.

Knackered wrote:

David wrote:

I think ours have 18 / 19 in them, and horse bedding is used on the floor......we clip the drinkers on while basketing, then remove them while we seal the crates up and load onto the wagon.....

32/28 size baskets have been mentioned here David, depending on the distance & I'm expected to jump up on a ramp etc 4ft of the ground & place some above my head as such  in the racks on this new truck. My mate "Little fat bloke" would have to carry a ladder with him to do it I suspect come basket night, sadly.

cant the little fattie rest his balls on the back of your neck that way no need to worry about the 4ft or ladder

oldstrain wrote:

Knackered wrote:

David wrote:

I think ours have 18 / 19 in them, and horse bedding is used on the floor......we clip the drinkers on while basketing, then remove them while we seal the crates up and load onto the wagon.....

32/28 size baskets have been mentioned here David, depending on the distance & I'm expected to jump up on a ramp etc 4ft of the ground & place some above my head as such  in the racks on this new truck. My mate "Little fat bloke" would have to carry a ladder with him to do it I suspect come basket night, sadly.

cant the little fattie rest his balls on the back of your neck that way no need to worry about the 4ft or ladder

Not likely O/S As he is as wide, as he is short etc & being a another plumber, the de-odourant issue & the consequences would cause me some concern     unfortunately.