I have a situation!

Maybe you remember, I started breeding late as I didn't get my stock birds until March.

Now I have a situation that I don't know how to fix.

When some of my first round babies were around 14 - 16 old, the hens started laying again. I anticipated this so I put a second nest bowl in their nest box.

But despite this, one hen laid the first of her second round egg in the bowl with the babies in. So I moved it into the second nest bowl. but she ignored it, so I swapped the nest bowls over - New nest bowl, now with one egg in it, to where the first round babies were and the babies in the original nest bowl to the other side of the nest box.

BUT NOW - neither of the parents will fed the 2 original babies.

What can I do?

Could I try swapping the babies from another nest with the ones that are not getting fed for a while, in the hope that the parents of the second lot will feed the ones that are not getting fed. Or what to do?

I am in a real quandary - HELP please.

Phil (blueskylofts)

hi phil, so how old are the babies now...? are they trying to peck at corn themselves yet...?

if it was me I would put the babies back in thee original bowl in the original place in the nest box.....ybs who are 16 days old + are more important than eggs, in my opinion any way.

David wrote:

hi phil, so how old are the babies now...? are they trying to peck at corn themselves yet...?

if it was me I would put the babies back in thee original bowl in the original place in the nest box.....ybs who are 16 days old + are more important than eggs, in my opinion any way.

Thanks David

I have put them back in the original boxes, in the original places. So now I have two babies and 1 egg in the nest, I don't want the eggs from this pair anyway, so I have put a pot egg in place of the real one.

The babies are 15 days old today and doing really well.

All though I do not want any more young birds from this pairing, I would like to keep these two.

I hope this helps

Phil

awkward one best put the 2 bowls in leave ybs in original pan and put dummy eggs in the other she will probably sit them when she lays the 2nd egg and things will settle down just check the ybs crops over the next few days to make sure their being fed ...you could allways hand rear as a last resort ...soaking big grains in water first and dipping theirs beaks in water a few times a day or syringing water down their throats...not ideal I know but when needs must atb

oldstrain wrote:

awkward one best put the 2 bowls in leave ybs in original pan and put dummy eggs in the other she will probably sit them when she lays the 2nd egg and things will settle down just check the ybs crops over the next few days to make sure their being fed ...you could allways hand rear as a last resort ...soaking big grains in water first and dipping theirs beaks in water a few times a day or syringing water down their throats...not ideal I know but when needs must atb

Thanks for that.

I will keep an eye on things over the next few days. I have just felt the babies crops and as far as I can tell, they have not been fed recently.

If I have to, I will hand feed them, a bit of a pain I know but not the first time I have had to do it. I once lost a good hen and the cock didn't want to know to much, so I took over.

Cheers
Phil

I would have never moved the eggs in the first place they would have been perfectly fine. Hopefully you can manage to keep the ybs..I have had eggs behind doors under drinkers on ledges ect ect .best to leave them alone

peel bros wrote:

I would have never moved the eggs in the first place they would have been perfectly fine. Hopefully you can manage to keep the ybs..I have had eggs behind doors under drinkers on ledges ect ect .best to leave them alone

Thanks for that We all live and learn and I think I have a LOT to learn about really keeping and racing pigeons.

Thanks to all contributes.

Yours in Sport
Phil

hi phil if you dont want the eggs just throw them out problem fixed

markevans wrote:

hi phil if you dont want the eggs just throw them out problem fixed

My situation is some what differant Mark Our Ray's influence is growing here I see as all I see is pink, pink & more pink now after having a fews days recreational leave etc here.

Yes Phil your right.my apologies for being so blunt.that was not my intention..I was just saying that's what I would have done

Knackered wrote:

markevans wrote:

hi phil if you dont want the eggs just throw them out problem fixed

My situation is some what differant Mark Our Ray's influence is growing here I see as all I see is pink, pink & more pink now after having a fews days recreational leave etc here.

winning that 1st today has gone to our rays head knackered............
well done ray ....

Xxx

peel bros wrote:

Xxx

Xxx come on now Ray I even can do better than that I will go XXXXXXXXXX & I will throw in a man hug also .

you want your name in pink yet knackered....?

Sorry no man hugs.3 kisses is enough

David wrote:

you want your name in pink yet knackered....?  

Why not David if you have the power Go man go etc & rest assured, no legal proceedings will be forth coming if the big event just happens to take place here .

peel bros wrote:

Sorry no man hugs.3 kisses is enough

OK Life is full of disappointments I've found sadly & as such I will just have to bare it all & battle on the best I can .

Knackered wrote:

markevans wrote:

hi phil if you dont want the eggs just throw them out problem fixed

My situation is some what differant Mark Our Ray's influence is growing here I see as all I see is pink, pink & more pink now after having a fews days recreational leave etc here.

Am I pissing the point - what has your comment got to do with my problem? What has all this 'pink' stuff got to do with my birds.
Phil

markevans wrote:

hi phil if you dont want the eggs just throw them out problem fixed

I understand what you are saying Mark.

However, if I throw the eggs away, my problem is not fixed. The problem being - now the parents of the og these two 15 day old babies do not want to feed them anymore!

They were doing a great job until I started messing around with them. I have really learnt a lesson - "if it isn't broken, don't try to fix it".

I only moved the egg because I was worried that the babies might brake it.

BEST LEFT ALONE! me think.

Cheers for now
Phil

blueskylofts wrote:

Knackered wrote:

markevans wrote:

hi phil if you dont want the eggs just throw them out problem fixed

My situation is some what differant Mark Our Ray's influence is growing here I see as all I see is pink, pink & more pink now after having a fews days recreational leave etc here.

Am I pissing the point - what has your comment got to do with my problem?  What has all this 'pink' stuff got to do with my birds.
Phil

My apologize's Phil it has nothing at all to do with your concerns/issues etc here, so I'm sorry for throwing a wee bit of banter your way. In future if I have nothing of an intelligent nature to say here I will just stay silent .
*****

Knackered wrote:

blueskylofts wrote:

Knackered wrote:

markevans wrote:

hi phil if you dont want the eggs just throw them out problem fixed

My situation is some what differant Mark Our Ray's influence is growing here I see as all I see is pink, pink & more pink now after having a fews days recreational leave etc here.

Am I pissing the point - what has your comment got to do with my problem?  What has all this 'pink' stuff got to do with my birds.
Phil

My apologize's Phil it has nothing at all to do with your concerns/issues etc here, so I'm sorry for throwing a wee bit of banter your way. In future if I have nothing of an intelligent nature to say here I will just stay silent .
*****

Hi Knackerd

Now that would be very boring - we all like a bit of banter sometimes.

It is just that I have a lot to learn regarding keeping and racing pigeons in a 'Proper' way, and every time I ask something that I need to know - 1 or 2 people give me good and clear advice - then people start talking about other peoples wives and all sorts of other nonsense.

I think it is great that certain members know each other so well they can chat about stuff - BUT if that is the case, why don't they start a new post and keep me out of it, at least until I know you all a bit better.

I am really struggling here sometimes - I have paid a lot of money for most of my birds and being on a disability pension, money is very tight and I don't want, and can't afford to cock things up.

Maybe I am being a bit 'precious', but my pigeons mean a heck of a lot to me (as do most fanciers birds, to them) and I want to get it as right as I can - or at least not make too may mistakes.

Rant over - sorry!

Phil

blueskylofts wrote:

Knackered wrote:

blueskylofts wrote:

Knackered wrote:

markevans wrote:

hi phil if you dont want the eggs just throw them out problem fixed

My situation is some what differant Mark Our Ray's influence is growing here I see as all I see is pink, pink & more pink now after having a fews days recreational leave etc here.

Am I pissing the point - what has your comment got to do with my problem?  What has all this 'pink' stuff got to do with my birds.
Phil

My apologize's Phil it has nothing at all to do with your concerns/issues etc here, so I'm sorry for throwing a wee bit of banter your way. In future if I have nothing of an intelligent nature to say here I will just stay silent .
*****

Hi Knackerd

Now that would be very boring - we all like a bit of banter sometimes.

It is just that I have a lot to learn regarding keeping and racing pigeons in a 'Proper' way, and every time I ask something that I need to know - 1 or 2 people give me good and clear advice - then people start talking about other peoples wives and all sorts of other nonsense.

I think it is great that certain members know each other so well they can chat about stuff - BUT if that is the case, why don't they start a new post and keep me out of it, at least until I know you all a bit better.

I am really struggling here sometimes - I have paid a lot of money for most of my birds and being on a disability pension, money is very tight and I don't want, and can't afford to cock things up.

Maybe I am being a bit 'precious', but my pigeons mean a heck of a lot to me (as do most fanciers birds, to them) and I want to get it as right as I can - or at least not make too may mistakes.

Rant over - sorry!

Phil

Point taking Phil .

I don't know anyones wife but I am working on it

oldstrain wrote:

I don't know anyones wife but I am working on it

I apologize for the Bristol here Phil. Some people just carn't help themselves, sadly .

After all the good advice you guys gave me, I did the following:-

Took away the second nest bowl
Put the egg/s back into the original nest
Removed the real eggs and replaced them with dummy eggs

NOW all is good! Parents feeding babies again - yip-eee!

I have learnt a valuable lesson here - "if it isn't broken - don't try and fix it"!

Hay - we all live and learn.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

Yours in Sport
Phil