What to do with eight later bred young birds

I have 40 youngsters on the darkness system. They are towards the end of their moult but not yet really roaming.

I also have EIGHT later bred young birds out of our very best breeding pairs.

At the moment they are housed in a small section next to our stock hens, but not together with the hens. They are feeding and drinking really well and finding their way onto perches without any problems.

I don't know what to do with them!

I don't feel I can put them together with the rest of our young birds for several reasons:-

1. They will hold the rest back and probably stop them roaming properly.

2. Because they can fly but not too well yet, they might be a nuisance flying up onto our house roof (or the neighbour's house).

3. I don't feel I can put them on the darkness system for only 4 weeks. Goodness knows what that might do to them.

Logistically, there is no way I can get them to come in and out of the small section they are in at the moment.

I don't know what to do - Any ideas please.

hi, If you feel they will get in the way and be more of a hindrance, offer them to a new starter maybe?

I can't give them away, they are far too valuable to give them away.

In fact, I think I will sell them. I have a buyer for two of the 8 already.

The Six remaining young birds that are left are:-

Two Pure Jos Thone - from
Sire's Side - Sire - Mr Emperor, g sire Emperor, g dam Zarina
Dam - Geisha Girl, g sire Emperor, g dam daughter of Poco

Dam's Side Pure Jos Thone - full sister to Princess Poco
Sire - The Matrix, g dam Paranegra
Dam - Poco Dream, g g sires - Kleine Molenaar, The Red Barcelona

Sire Two Pure Jos Thone, Cock flew RPRA One Loft Race 2017 and did well in the ACE results
Paired to its mother - see below
Dam's Side - Dam - Pure Jos Thone, mother of One Loft Race bird above
Sire – Poco Real Madrid, in bloodline has Poco
Dam - Nintendo, in blood line has Poco, Kleine Molenaar

Two - Matt Rakes x Jos Thone
Sire's Side - Sire - Matt Rakes Deweerdt
Sire - Brother of Indy
Dam - daughter of Dromer

Dam's Side - Dam - Pure Jos Thone (little Red)
Sire - son of The Red Barcelona, in bloodline has Vale Cahors
Dam - Poco Dream Girl, in bloodline has The Red Barcelona, Kleine Molenaar, Poco

For full details and prices, contact me at blueskylofts56@yahoo.com

Phil

Not having a pop, just wondering why you bred them in the first place knowing you might end up in this scenario??

barnie wrote:

Not having a pop, just wondering why you bred them in the first place knowing you might end up in this scenario??

Neither am I Barnie . But I was just curious etc if these youngsters of Phil's are bred off those birds he was up in arms about here recently, because he felt he had been dudded in a big, big way because of there condition quality & not being what he thought they were as such.
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Knackered. Thought those birds he mentioned while back came off another person?

halcanada wrote:

Knackered. Thought those birds he mentioned while back came off another person?

YES you are right Hal.

The 8 birds we are talking about are bred from our very best breeders. NOT the ones I had problems with.

By the way that has all been sorted out now!  And if you remember, we were able to get some REAL Ad S's stock birds because of someone's very kind help.

These 8 birds (now 6 because I have sold two of them) we bred specifically for us because we were able to float another round from our best 4 breeding pairs.  At the time, we thought they would augment the few we might lose during the season.  Kind of a 'Back-up'.

However, that was way back and I didn't think things through OR I didn't appreciate or know what position we would be in when it came time to wean these 8 young birds.  We just don't have the room as things stand right now.

Our lofts are not as I want them by a long way, I haven't had the energy or health to do what I wanted to do yet - etc, etc etc!

By the way Knackered - I would NEVER try and sell 2nd rate birds, or what I knew to be second rate birds.  I would NEVER have rubbish birds in my loft for a start.  If I bought what I thought were quality birds, and they turned out to be no good - they would be GONE!  So you don't need to worry about what birds I have!!!!  

If you had looked at the synopsis (short pedigree) of the birds I am thinking of selling you would see that NOWHERE does it mention Ad Schaerlaeckens! The birds I am talking about are Jos Thone.

I am only a PM away if you want to find out things about me or my birds.

Phil

blueskylofts wrote:

halcanada wrote:

Knackered. Thought those birds he mentioned while back came off another person?

YES you are right Hal.

The 8 birds we are talking about are bred from our very best breeders. NOT the ones I had problems with.

By the way that has all been sorted out now!  And if you remember, we were able to get some REAL Ad S's stock birds because of someone's very kind help.

These 8 birds (now 6 because I have sold two of them) we bred specifically for us because we were able to float another round from our best 4 breeding pairs.  At the time, we thought they would augment the few we might lose during the season.  Kind of a 'Back-up'.

However, that was way back and I didn't think things through OR I didn't appreciate or know what position we would be in when it came time to wean these 8 young birds.  We just don't have the room as things stand right now.

Our lofts are not as I want them by a long way, I haven't had the energy or health to do what I wanted to do yet - etc, etc etc!

By the way Knackered - I would NEVER try and sell 2nd rate birds, or what I knew to be second rate birds.  I would NEVER have rubbish birds in my loft for a start.  If I bought what I thought were quality birds, and they turned out to be no good - they would be GONE!  So you don't need to worry about what birds I have!!!!  

If you had looked at the synopsis (short pedigree) of the birds I am thinking of selling you would see that NOWHERE does it mention Ad Schaerlaeckens!  The birds I am talking about are Jos Thone.

I am only a PM away if you want to find out things about me or my birds.

Phil

OK appears thou, Hal has a far better memory than me Phil etc. Thanks for the offer of a private email type of thing also but I'm a miserable old git so will just that one slide for the time being .
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