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Pigeon World Forum Syndicate Bird takes 44th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final.The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain)
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PostSubject: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Oct 04, 2019 6:53 pm

looks like both our entires are in the top 100 ace pigeon list .

well done to darren for supplying these birds .... cheers cheers


Pos. Fancier Ring Number Total Time Velocity
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52 Team Blag GB19X36826 61422 1170.74
53 Two Rs GB19E15201 61428 1170.61
54 Mark Smith ( Cannock) 2 GB19X19805 61498 1169.27
55 Mr & Mrs McLaughlin and Son GB19Z14590 61500 1169.25
56 Four Nations Syndicate 4 GB19V35504 61519 1168.89
57 Bronwen Lofts WHU2019A03599 61527 1168.74
58 G Force GB19V40810 61577 1167.78
59 Four Nations Syndicate 4 GB19R30580 61630 1166.78
60 Mark Smith ( Cannock) 2 GB19A23611 61640 1166.60
61 Double D & J GB19V39787 61652 1166.36
62 Gypsy Quay GB19L01233 61668 1166.06
63 Hawk Dodgers SU19R428 61685 1165.73
64 Four Nations Syndicate 2 NWHU2019S3597 61749 1164.52
65 Pigeon World Forum GB19D05422 61750 1164.51
66 Marlene GB19C12989 61800 1163.57
67 Mixed Blessings GB19P10023 61832 1162.96
68 Barking Drunks Syndicate GB19X12069 61863 1162.38
69 No Magnums For Sue GB19V71344 61864 1162.36
70 Mauger Lofts 1 GB19S17982 61919 1161.33
71 Gribbles Choice GB19V58773 61973 1160.32
72 Clampy 2 NWHU2019R1642 62038 1159.10
73 B C T - Racing GB19V11400 62040 1159.06
74 Joseph Nuciforo GB19N33825 62085 1158.23
75 Team Hartog BELG194114538 62195 1156.19
76 The Real McCoy GB19R14752 62286 1154.48
77 A & F Astore GB19N08361 62317 1153.91
78 Pompey Pirates GB19N64062 62328 1153.71
79 Owen And Hogarth GB19V34508 62335 1153.59
80 Blues Brothers SU191008 62414 1152.12
81 Bead Rattlers SU19NW2602 62552 1149.59
82 Gribbles Choice GB19V58776 62604 1148.62
83 Team Toot Toot GB19B09075 62726 1146.40
84 Four Nations Syndicate 2 GB19V35210 62782 1145.36
85 T.A.L.K Syndicate GB19L33120 62966 1142.02
86 Malvern Maestros GB19N51898 62981 1141.74
87 Halty Hounds GB19H05600 63066 1140.21
88 Wiljon GB19S27783 63078 1140.00
89 Emeralds & Diamonds Dynasty GB19V17816 63088 1139.82
90 Norfolk in Cace GB19C12980 63207 1137.66
91 Dastardly & Muttley GB19X37959 63225 1137.35
92 Ward & Cullen M & M Lofts NWHU2019D1660 63345 1135.18
93 Ken Mason GB19N29842 63520 1132.07
94 Cleelofts@hotmail.co.uk GB19H26012 63612 1130.43
95 Pigeon World Forum GB19D05421 63653 1129.70
96 Ashcats GB19S29425 63694 1128.97
97 Newt 79 WHU2019A26732 63722 1128.47
98 Cookstown Sizzlers GB19C10421 63763 1127.75
99 CountyDown Allstars GB19F05424 63798 1127.13
100 Aston Flyers GB19D07224 63883 1125.63
101 Double - D GB19Z51505 63931 1124.79
102 John & Debbie GB19C44153 63938 1124.66
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Oct 04, 2019 10:06 pm

wonder how they work it out ...maybe they add all the velocities and then break it down to an average ,good to see them in the top 100 it should help get a few more £ for the syndicate
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Oct 04, 2019 10:43 pm

Fantastic performance from both pigeons and fingers crossed they can achieve what they deserve in obtaining a good price
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySat Oct 05, 2019 10:27 am

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Fantastic performance from both pigeons and fingers crossed they can achieve what they deserve in obtaining a good price  
Couldn't agree more etc Don Smile Smile A real credit to O/S & his little partner in crime I suggest Wink Wink. Now Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes some Smile Smile may just prefer the flash in the pan, one time wonder birds etc but give me the head down ****up worker types birds any day of the week. The bar has been set for next year also I suspect & once again it should be a most interesting journey again over the next 12 months as such. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySat Oct 05, 2019 3:17 pm

Think oldstrain they work it out time into distance overall, overall distance divided by overall time.

Irrespective of any other consideration you should be proud of the performance of both, just proves Alfie knows the works.

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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySat Oct 05, 2019 8:26 pm

Good quality pigeons
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyMon Oct 07, 2019 10:02 pm

well done darren, thats some achievement getting both birds to the final, and them both placed in the top 100 of the ace pigeon list.
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyWed Oct 09, 2019 7:06 am

Boosey wrote:
Good quality pigeons
Smile Smile True Boosey Wink Wink simple too say as such I suggest Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes finding them thou on average bounce bounce slightly harder to do some what I would suggest, for most of us in the average type category Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Nov 01, 2019 8:00 am

I am SOOOO glad that you have had a Brilliant year with your birds Darren.

Last year you were a bit down about them. You certainly have truned things ariound for yourself.

Really WELL DONE mate.

And of course - great effort with your 'Forum' birds also.

Speak soon.
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Nov 01, 2019 8:13 am

not seen you here for a while phil, i hope you are well, and your settled in the new house ..........
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Nov 01, 2019 9:19 am

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not seen you here for a while phil, i hope you are well, and your settled in the new house ..........
Phil should be quite happy now I suggest David Wink Wink No more snails type of thing for supper I suspect lol! lol! lol! "the french connection" Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes as just plain old special type english tucker now for the enjoyment factor there, maybe Very Happy Very Happy. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Nov 01, 2019 10:47 am

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not seen you here for a while phil, i hope you are well, and your settled in the new house ..........

To be honest with you guys, I just got a bit fed up with all the bickering and backbiting. However, I have come to realise that this is probably the kind of attitude one could expect from any type of forum!

The problem with pigeon men is that they all think they are right, and nobody else's ideas but their own could have any truth in them. These are my findings only and my opinion.

But anyway, as I am here, Hil and I moved into a lovely bungalow in a private cul de sac on the outskirts of Gloucester. The garden is just about big enough for our needs but the bungalow is a bit small, or at least a bit small for all the stuff we brought with us from a four and a half acre organic smallholding!!

I have a really good well working semi-commercial cement mixer that works on mains for sale if anybody wants it. I am happy to take £60 if anybody is interested - it must be worth at least twice that.

OK - the pigeons - we got off to a very slow start as we didn't move in here until the end of March, then we had to build somewhere for the birds to live. It was nearly the end of April before we got any eggs, let alone any babies.

Of course we were too late to put them on the darkness and nearly too late to get them anything like ready for the young bird racing season.

In the end, we did quite well, ending up with 21 young birds all of which had had several races and most had flown out to 100 miles plus.

Our last two races were the most memorable. We had had some seconds and thirds in the club before that, but the penultimate race we did we won the club, and the very final race, not only did we win the club, but we topped the Fed with the same bird as the week before.

The parents of this particular bird that was first in the club and topped the fed has some really good quality Mark Gilbert blood on both sides (well, not actually his blood but the blood of his racing family!!)

We bred a small bunch of really late youngsters just to top up the amount of yearlings we will have to race next year. We have given them half a dozen training tosses up to now, and hope to give them more experience in the next few weeks, weather permitting.

That's about it. Hope you are all OK.

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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Nov 01, 2019 11:19 am

i agree to an extent what you say phil, pigeon men are very set in their ways, right or wrong, they will not listen to advise ......plus i think the whole pigeon keeping thing is one of bickering and disagreeing , altho there are still some good people involved in it .

i dont think our small forum does have much disagreeing or falling out, yes we dont always agree, and do have a different opinion sometimes, but in general i think we have respect for each others opinions even though we dont always agree with them.

we get to know each other and accept each others views.

anyway, good to have you back phil,
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyFri Nov 01, 2019 5:08 pm

good to have you back on the forum guys look forward to yer input again hopefully,not a bad bunch here phil to be fair,just put yer pennys worth in and craic on m8 not worth getting to involved ,besides I have found one can often get the wrong end of the stick as what is written is taken literally and a lot of the time its not meant that way ,anyhow good to see ya on the forum ,speak soon
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySat Nov 02, 2019 12:51 am

Yes Phil. Many disagree with anothers comments. Many also agree. If one person states something then the ones who agree have tried it and it works. The ones who have followed or tried the advice disagree if it does not work for them. Australia, Canada, UK etc, can not be similar as to other countries. Obviously. However, I learn from other people on here various methods etc,. As stated some work some do not. My take on it all is this. Keep racing and caring for the birds as simple as possible. Intelligence and quality of the birds will soon assert itself. One way or the other.
UK is kicking up about immigrants. Here in one sector alone, mushroom farmers are 16,000 workers short. They come here, usually from Mexico, earn minimun wage. $14 and hour. After the work period is over, they return to Mexico.
Many more examples of workers needed here. They do not take jobs away from other people. Days are gone when if one stole a loaf of bread he would be deported to Australia!
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySat Nov 02, 2019 8:57 am

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Yes Phil. Many disagree with anothers comments. Many also agree. If one person states something then the ones who agree have tried it and it works. The ones who have followed or tried the advice disagree if it does not work for them. Australia, Canada, UK etc, can not be similar as to other countries. Obviously. However, I learn from other people on here various methods etc,. As stated some work some do not. My take on it all is this. Keep racing and caring for the birds as simple as possible. Intelligence and quality of the birds will soon assert itself. One way or the other.
UK is kicking up about immigrants. Here in one sector alone, mushroom farmers are 16,000 workers short. They come here, usually from Mexico, earn minimun wage. $14 and hour. After the work period is over, they return to Mexico.
Many more examples of workers needed here. They do not take jobs away from other people. Days are gone when if one stole a loaf of bread he would be deported to Australia!
Most Hal Smile Smile hopefully Wink Wink would agree on average, that certain type immigrants etc can add some value to ones society overall. Illegal types thou I suggest & especially those that just tend to rort the system, no matter where it is will find few friends I suspect I'm affraid except for those that play the same game in the end. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySat Nov 02, 2019 9:07 am

on that basis hal, it would be nice if those economic scavengers who storm our shores went back home once they had done the work we had in store for them, but sadly this isnt the case in the uk.

they travel half way across the world for a free house and free money .
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySat Nov 02, 2019 6:14 pm

The people of the UK (I iincluded) complained about them years ago also. Colonials. There is a problem with them here but on a much smaller scale. They cross the border in to Canada from the US. Quebec gets the majority of them. Most are from South America. They are detained. Quite often deported. Trump does not want them.
Quebec has banned face coverings, other religious attire/symbols, in the Province.
Most agree with them. Canadians. The workers imported pick apples/grapes/tomatoes etc,. Plus mushrooms and other veggies. No one else wants to do it. Too demeaning. Too labour intensive. Automation of the work is in progress. Should bring prices down but will be some years yet.
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySat Nov 02, 2019 9:45 pm

Neve come across any bickering and back biting on the forum, found some allergic to the truth irrespective of facts.

Would be a complete waste of time if everyone agreed.

It is only by confronting the truth when it is detrimental to the sport and getting rid of those responsible that the sport will survive, be they friends or foe, ONE MANS MEAT etc;

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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptySun Nov 03, 2019 8:51 am

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on that basis hal, it would be nice if those economic scavengers who storm our shores went back home once they had done the work we had in store for them, but sadly this isnt the case in the uk.

they travel half way across the world for a free house and free money .
Maybe with Brexit etc David Wink Wink if it ever happens there Smile Smile you can just close your borders as such Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes like down here. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyMon Nov 04, 2019 4:48 pm

One big problem.

Who will do the work these people presently do.

We have fruit etc; rotting because none of our unemployed idlers will do the work in harvesting them.

They at least provide a much needed service, and do not have houses etc; for nothing, they are put up by their employers in many cases.

It is the idlers born and bred here that are the problem.

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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyMon Nov 04, 2019 5:20 pm

its a myth that immigrants do the work our lazy home bred shirkers do not want to do ......its a myth they are good workers.

truth is they either claim benefits, or take jobs and do the least amount of work to get them through the day........a family member of mine works for the NHS , and says they are bone idle, and based on my own observations i believe they are .

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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyMon Nov 04, 2019 7:49 pm

been on sites with them ... Sleep lol! one gang were clocking in on 2 sites having it bang off
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyTue Nov 05, 2019 9:09 am

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The people of the UK (I iincluded) complained about them years ago also. Colonials. There is a problem with them here but on a much smaller scale. They cross the border in to Canada from the US. Quebec gets the majority of them. Most are from South America. They are detained. Quite often deported. Trump does not want them.
Quebec has banned face coverings, other religious attire/symbols, in the Province.
Most agree with them. Canadians. The workers imported pick apples/grapes/tomatoes etc,. Plus mushrooms and other veggies. No one else wants to do it. Too demeaning. Too labour intensive. Automation of the work is in progress. Should bring prices down but will be some years yet.
I wish they would ban them down here Hal Smile Smile the face covering types etc Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes get's right up my nose I'm affraid Suggests to me sadly, that they have no intention of fitting into the normal society aspect as such on average. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon   2019 RPRA Ace Pigeon EmptyTue Nov 05, 2019 9:46 am

Come on, our own society is the most permissive and progressively, by the pc mob, becoming the laughing stock of the world.

Anything abnormal goes, anything normal, unacceptable.

I disagree with hiding ones identity and looking anything but human, however, many, although in my opinion entitled to their beliefs, should conform to our basic standards of behaviour ( although having said that our standards are falling well short of any so called civilised society).

We are in a very privileged position regarding the standard of living taking the world as a whole.

Our NHS would not function without foreign workers, in all departments, my son has worked for over 25 years in the NHS and says the most idle are our own workers.

I worked for one of the largest building company and all work was inspected and only paid for on actual results, cannot see how any employer would allow anyone working for two different companies.

All employers, other than those run by the government, would not have idlers being paid for doing nothing, along of course with the utilities who have one worker and another to hold their hand.

Would do some people good to sit down count their blessings and pray for those who are in dire situations (through only being born in the wrong place) throughout the world.

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