Rpra One Loft 2020 Updates .

We certainly do. Next most likely money becomes useless lol

MISTY wrote:

Appears confident there will be some training.

Pigeons did not seem to go far from the loft.

Would prefer to see them high in the sky.

Must be a nightmare looking after so many.

Lets just hope for the best.

Regards.

Nightmare for me I'm  Misty would be inoculating them all for PMV & the like etc.

dont worry oz they aint daft they get the breeders of the ybs to do it before they are sent to the one loft thats why they dont want them there too young and have to be at least 35 days old

Yes old strain.
For a fact, some, especially some German's send y/b's that have flown a season of races back home.
After being, or settling themselves down, when released they realise it's too far etc. Then remember where they got their last feed. return and race. Apparently.

Thought the only initial treatment allowed was the compulsory vaccination.

If some are and some are not using other preventative medication it is not a fair playing field.

Regards.

the one loft uses a few tonics in the water ,i noticed a few bottles laying about when there dropping birds off last year ,i also had a chat with the loft hand for a few minutes who incidentally was flat out i am sure they use some form of organic acid to ph the water to ,think they use bucktons corn mixes ,they did last year ...all down to sponsorship of course £

oldstrain wrote:

the one loft uses a few tonics in the water ,i noticed a few bottles laying about when there dropping birds off last year ,i also had a chat with the loft hand for a few minutes who incidentally was flat out i am sure they use some form of organic acid to ph the water to ,think they use bucktons corn mixes ,they did last year ...all down to sponsorship of course £

Tonics Reminds me here O/S of when I travelled from one side of the country here to the other side as such to visit the man that first brought the Planet brothers pigeons into the country. Had more tonic type mixtures there than a chemist to keep his pigeons safe & well .

Be very interesting, as I have suggested several times, not to treat the OL for anything and just see how many are drug dependant, and how many survive.

Bet you could get those left into a nut shell as it were.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Be very interesting, as I have suggested several times, not to treat the OL for anything and just see how many are drug dependant, and how many survive.

Bet you could  get those left into a nut shell as it were.

Regards.

Would be most interesting I suggest but suspect thou many OL Races would have a very short life type span some how I feel on average.
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May 18th, 2020
Good Afternoon

Please see two more videos below one is a walk through the lofts and the other is a video of them flying out the last few days with a video edit done by John Gwent.

The birds are progressing well its just a case of getting them all flying and kitting up well enough to start short training which normally starts the first week of June.

I will update you with more news and a video of when this will happen nearer the time.

Mid June will see a full loft list as to what birds are in the lofts after the first 3 months and then we will be pushing on with the training.

I hope everyone is keeping well , we are starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel and all being well domestic racing will start in June.

I will update again towards the end of next week on how the birds are progressing regards to flying and trapping etc.

Jeremy..

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Would be a success in its self if all five are there oldstrain.

Many things can go wrong in a OL with so many pigeons involved.

Once read where gig nob entered 10 pigeons in OL races and thought it great if 3 made the final.

Regards.

oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

Don Webb wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

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oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you  

Certainly no pressure, except       for the     pair as such     maybe. Small steps I say & our first body count etc & we can start to get some idea hopefully what our future may just be I suggest Don.

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Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you  

Certainly no pressure, except       for the     pair as such     maybe. Small steps I say & our first body count etc & we can start to get some idea hopefully what our future may just be I suggest Don.

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

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oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you  

Certainly no pressure, except       for the     pair as such     maybe. Small steps I say & our first body count etc & we can start to get some idea hopefully what our future may just be I suggest Don.

Like I have said in the past get them there and wait till the final race if they are still there that's a bonus

You don't want to be watching for them every week and tempting fate but i know a few of the members will be watching but its jmo

Whats left in the final race, then we can watch and wait

Don sums it up in reality.

A half decent fancier once said with plum in mouth a realism of truth. 'The best birds are in your loft'.
Ok times moving on and the B.0.P. problem has, undoubtedly, taken a toll. However the sentiments are as true to day as always.
Yes we all lament a bird lost.

How ever, surely, what is left and placed against the lofts faring and performance is, and has to be a 'Yard Stick' to all and sundry.

Time to make reasonings count.
One thing for sure, if you do the same next season, can one honestly expect better results? Indeed logged and able to look over the past three years, for example and placed side by side the truth must be noted surely.

Excuses for birds lost is sadly, futile. Water under the bridge.
Seasons performances tell the story of truth mostly. Ignored at peril.

Culls breeding culls because they were costly to buy. Or having a great pedigree etc.
Neither flies.

Immunity and good constitutions lost, needs laying the blame squarely where it belongs... At the fanciers feet.
So if the performances are letting you, and the birds down, something, surely, needs to change!
Excuses won't help a jot now, will they!

Don Webb wrote:

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oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you  

Certainly no pressure, except       for the     pair as such     maybe. Small steps I say & our first body count etc & we can start to get some idea hopefully what our future may just be I suggest Don.

Like I have said in the past get them there and wait till the final race if they are still there that's a bonus  

You don't want to be watching for them every week and tempting fate but i know a few of the members will be watching but its jmo

Whats left in the final race, then we can watch and wait

Alright for you etc Don maybe, but I have greater expectations down here I'm   as I'm battling for a quid with this corona thing now & I'm looking for some early easy money somehow, right from the first time they all go to a race as such . Not that I would ever, ever wish to put pressure on any one here thou    .

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you  

Certainly no pressure, except       for the     pair as such     maybe. Small steps I say & our first body count etc & we can start to get some idea hopefully what our future may just be I suggest Don.

Like I have said in the past get them there and wait till the final race if they are still there that's a bonus  

You don't want to be watching for them every week and tempting fate but i know a few of the members will be watching but its jmo

Whats left in the final race, then we can watch and wait

Alright for you etc Don maybe, but I have greater expectations down here I'm   as I'm battling for a quid with this corona thing now & I'm looking for some early easy money somehow, right from the first time they all go to a race as such . Not that I would ever, ever wish to put pressure on any one here thou    .

Kanackered its like the old saying you got a pigeons well fancied pooled all the way and that pigeon is the only missing and the fancier says all the pools weighed the pigeon down to much

I just don't want to tempt fate as I am a little superstitious with things

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

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Don Webb wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you  

Certainly no pressure, except       for the     pair as such     maybe. Small steps I say & our first body count etc & we can start to get some idea hopefully what our future may just be I suggest Don.

Like I have said in the past get them there and wait till the final race if they are still there that's a bonus  

You don't want to be watching for them every week and tempting fate but i know a few of the members will be watching but its jmo

Whats left in the final race, then we can watch and wait

Alright for you etc Don maybe, but I have greater expectations down here I'm   as I'm battling for a quid with this corona thing now & I'm looking for some early easy money somehow, right from the first time they all go to a race as such . Not that I would ever, ever wish to put pressure on any one here thou    .

Kanackered its like the old saying you got a pigeons well fancied pooled all the way and that pigeon is the only missing and the fancier says all the pools weighed the pigeon down to much

I just don't want to tempt fate as I am a little superstitious with things  

Grave yard filled with pigeons etc Don I suggest that fall into that scenario I'm . Even champion Breakaway I believe, unfortunately went once to often type of thing      .

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you  

Certainly no pressure, except       for the     pair as such     maybe. Small steps I say & our first body count etc & we can start to get some idea hopefully what our future may just be I suggest Don.

Like I have said in the past get them there and wait till the final race if they are still there that's a bonus  

You don't want to be watching for them every week and tempting fate but i know a few of the members will be watching but its jmo

Whats left in the final race, then we can watch and wait

Alright for you etc Don maybe, but I have greater expectations down here I'm   as I'm battling for a quid with this corona thing now & I'm looking for some early easy money somehow, right from the first time they all go to a race as such . Not that I would ever, ever wish to put pressure on any one here thou    .

Kanackered its like the old saying you got a pigeons well fancied pooled all the way and that pigeon is the only missing and the fancier says all the pools weighed the pigeon down to much

I just don't want to tempt fate as I am a little superstitious with things  

Grave yard filled with pigeons etc Don I suggest that fall into that scenario I'm . Even champion Breakaway I believe, unfortunately went once to often type of thing      .

There was more to that than meet the eye as Breakaway was raced in the area I live and the stories which go around vary alot

But one off the best secretaries in the business was George Westwood and what he told me was for me the truth but what George told me stays with me

But there was a film with footage of Breakaway on it for the 60/90 seconds you see the champion he was a fantastic pigeon.

Here's one story I was told

When Breakaway was marked and placed in the race basket the pigeon always worked his way to the front off the basket and any pigeon which came close to him Breakaway would flick his wing at them to keep them away from him

So when you looked in the basket there was always an area clear around Breakaway

One night the fanciers at the club said I wonder if breakaway could find the front off the basket in the dark they took him out the basket and placed him in a different basket in the dark and yes true to form Breakaway went straight to the front of the basket

What a pigeon hey

His Owner Ron Green was a fantastic pigeon fancier who was the best at conditioning pigeons to race but there is one thing Ron told me was Breakaway was only feed Barley from the farm if he had the food that's available to feed today like depurative Breakaway would have won loads more.

Food for thought hey

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

thanks for the update david be interesting to see if we still have a full house of 5 come the loft update mid june

Daz I cant see that being a problem at all the quality you have fingers crossed they can do well for the syndicate

But I like have said in the past wait till the final race

True Don Interesting times ahead etc I suggest & I have the utmost faith in those doing the work for our team of champs here, who will do their best I'm sure to get some type of racing in by the end as such for all those hoping to just live the dream there .

Forgot to say just let the pigeons get on with the job ahead and then we can see what is left in the final race

No pressure boys just look at whats in front off you  

Certainly no pressure, except       for the     pair as such     maybe. Small steps I say & our first body count etc & we can start to get some idea hopefully what our future may just be I suggest Don.

Like I have said in the past get them there and wait till the final race if they are still there that's a bonus  

You don't want to be watching for them every week and tempting fate but i know a few of the members will be watching but its jmo

Whats left in the final race, then we can watch and wait

Alright for you etc Don maybe, but I have greater expectations down here I'm   as I'm battling for a quid with this corona thing now & I'm looking for some early easy money somehow, right from the first time they all go to a race as such . Not that I would ever, ever wish to put pressure on any one here thou    .

Kanackered its like the old saying you got a pigeons well fancied pooled all the way and that pigeon is the only missing and the fancier says all the pools weighed the pigeon down to much

I just don't want to tempt fate as I am a little superstitious with things  

Grave yard filled with pigeons etc Don I suggest that fall into that scenario I'm . Even champion Breakaway I believe, unfortunately went once to often type of thing      .

There was more to that than meet the eye as Breakaway was raced in the area I live and the stories which go around vary alot

But one off the best secretaries in the business was George Westwood and what he told me was for me the truth but what George told me stays with me

But there was a film with footage of Breakaway on it for the 60/90 seconds you see the champion he was a fantastic pigeon.

Here's one story I was told

When Breakaway was marked and placed in the race basket the pigeon always worked his way to the front off the basket and any pigeon which came close to him Breakaway would flick his wing at them to keep them away from him

So when you looked in the basket there was always an area clear around Breakaway

One night the fanciers at the club said I wonder if breakaway could find the front off the basket in the dark they took him out the basket and placed him in a different basket in the dark and yes true to form Breakaway went straight to the front of the basket

What a pigeon hey

His Owner Ron Green was a fantastic pigeon fancier who was the best at conditioning pigeons to race but there is one thing Ron told me was Breakaway was only feed Barley from the farm if he had the food that's available to feed today like depurative Breakaway would have won loads more.

Food for thought hey    

Interesting little snippet etc Don Thanks. Just went surfing here well, not here but out there in google land as such. OLR first race, 15 miles 1400 birds, lost 122 just hope our team of little chumps here     can do a wee bit better than that type of thing .

Well Don the beauty of thoughts eh!

What a pigeon hey

His Owner Ron Green was a fantastic pigeon fancier who was the best at conditioning pigeons to race but there is one thing Ron told me was Breakaway was only feed Barley from the farm if he had the food that's available to feed today like depurative Breakaway would have won loads more.

Food for thought hey!

But ten again nigh everyone was feeding 'Farm Feeds if able.
Indeed a very good farmer started a Pigeon store selling Farm Feeds for pigeons which nigh al, if not every one bought from. Indeed he had a welcome and thanks night around Christmas with free grub etc.

Likewise Cooks farm near Louella's in Leicestershire. Very many are still using the farm feeds from there. And doing well of course, and at least half the costs. Yes they do stock other 'Named Feeds' but …
So maybe he would do better, but then the others would still be as close, and probably not any farther behind. Its a who knows what thought. However I don't for a minute thing that any feed makes A. The fancier. Nor the bird I guess. J.M.O.