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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyWed Dec 09, 2020 9:37 pm

Then all the waffle about it taking ten years  to develope a vacine appears to be just that.

Pays to  to play a waiting game at times and see how things pan out before 
comming to a conclusion.

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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyWed Dec 09, 2020 11:32 pm

MISTY wrote:
Then all the waffle about it taking ten years  to develope a vacine appears to be just that.

Pays to  to play a waiting game at times and see how things pan out before 
comming to a conclusion.

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Will be a waiting type game for many as you say I suspect Misty Smile Smile in the end bounce bounce & I suspect this time next year Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes many will still be waiting maybe for their first shot somehow Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 7:35 am

MISTY wrote:
Then all the waffle about it taking ten years  to develope a vacine appears to be just that.

Pays to  to play a waiting game at times and see how things pan out before 
comming to a conclusion.

Regards.

its not waffle misty, its a fact ........a vaccine take years to properly trial before it is deemed fit for purpose, sorry but it seems you hold too much faith in our government and believe whatever you hear on the news, or news papers .........the media are as corrupt as the government, and push the propaganda .

maybe an idea to look further than the evening news or sun newspaper .

also to turn the little jew in the corner off ........ study
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 9:51 am

David, Canada has now accepted that the vacine is SAFE, not based on hear say and those with no actual knowledge of what is involved, but by those concerned for those in danger, ( which is EVERYONE).

I do not believe that with all the technical knowledge available as opposed to when previous vacines were needed matters have improved beyond recognition and I feel those who know what is involved are in a better position to judge rather than the Lay Man.

As for Jews the next few months will see who is right and who is wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 10:44 am

theres a lot of information out there, best we research and make our own minds up.......not believe all we are told, i know its hard to do for some who have held certain beleifs all their lives, but truth is the moon isnt made of cheese, study
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 11:36 am

Must agree whole heartedly with you there David.

Only ever been one vaccine that eliminated a problem, supposedly and that was -Small pox.
Next best is Polio with about 73%. Still rampant and devastating countries unable to buy etc. Or want to buy whilst, jabbing the well off only.
India thought it was gone, for instance... Golly did they get a shock when deciding not to jab the kids.
Obviously time is needed to stand the test of time. At present I'd say - hopefully Covid is 50% tops.

Then there will be side effects of course. Also a worrying fear that it may well come back, immune and stronger.
Time will tell tell of course and we hope and pray in the mean time.
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 11:46 am

“I saw, and look! a pale horse, and the one seated on it had the name Death.
And the Grave was closely following him. And authority was given them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a long sword and with food shortage and with deadly plague and by the wild beasts of the earth.”​—Revelation 6:8.

The fourth rider represents death due to plague and other causes. Soon after 1914, the Spanish flu killed tens of millions. Possibly some 500 million people were infected, about 1 out of every 3 humans then alive!

But the Spanish flu was just the beginning. Experts estimate that hundreds of millions died of smallpox during the 20th century. To this day, the lives of millions are cut short by AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria, despite intensive medical research.

The result is the same, death​—whether due to war, famine, or plague. The Grave relentlessly gathers up the victims, offering no hope.
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 2:39 pm

David wrote:
theres a lot of information out there, best we research and make our own minds up.......not believe all we are told, i know its hard to do for some who have held certain beleifs all their lives, but truth is the moon isnt made of cheese, study
Yes. All vaccines or meds will have some undesirable side effects. Pigeons or humans or animals. As long as they fall within a certain criteria they are safe. Best to see effects on others.
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 2:41 pm

Cannot understand the NO HOPE Daz.

I have every hope and expectation that there is hope.

As for vacines, without all the anti it is undeniable they have extended and saved billions of lives.

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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 6:46 pm

Hope is for those that understand, and strive to do the 'Truth; and God's will.
Like evolution there are no promises for those that don't!
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 8:28 pm

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Cannot understand the NO HOPE Daz.

I have every hope and expectation that there is hope.

As for vacines, without all the anti it is undeniable they have extended and saved billions of lives.

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I would say Smile Smile that's a fact etc Misty Wink Wink Still remember a mate I had at school in the early years here, struck down with Polio unfortunately & it made life utterly miserable for him at the time in many ways. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 8:37 pm

i think the reason people tend to believe so many conspiricy theories, is for the simple fact that we cannot trust the government .......they are professional liars .
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyThu Dec 10, 2020 9:06 pm

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i think the reason people tend to believe so many conspiricy theories, is for the simple fact that we cannot trust the government .......they are professional liars .
Smile Smile True Wink Wink they have it down to an art form from my experience down here etc David. Now Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes some good news bounce bounce & some bad news, maybe Wink Wink bad news, had a local order in here on the local front for 50 odd million vaccine shots. All gone pear shape for some reason & order now cancelled. Trump Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad has his name down for the Times magazines man of the year type scenario in Yanky land. Could have shot himself in the foot again thou I suspect somehow bounce bounce as over 3000 people have just died from the virus there in one day Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad which is more than what was killed in their tragic 7/11 disaster back when Wink Wink & by this weekend coming bounce bounce he really will have reached a milestone of sorts Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad as he will pass the 300,000 dead mark unfortunately while under his watch & management & he still has another 4/5 weeks to go before he finely walks the  pirat plank, kicking & screaming that he was robbed by the American people & their corrupt legal system Wink Wink apparently. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 11, 2020 11:22 am

Well, Hal, and Misty, I see, still, you place hope high on your addenda's. Yes, believing 'Mankind' will eventually sort it all out.

If a horse fell 99 times on the trot at the first hurdle - let alone a fence it never encounters, are you going to bet your house on it winning the next time?
Of course not.
Mankind's record is atrocious. Longest ever in history has one country gone 40 years without a war.
Food - that would feed the whole population twice over destroyed every day, whilst millions starve (851.345 a day)! Why! Greed and profits. Those that can afford to say 'We have to pay for it... let them starve. Let them die! Women and children scavenging refuse tip competing with the rats and seagull for a morsel of food. Well done Man!
Women going into the ditches for human shit. To squeeze the moisture out to drink and cook with. The Uk. is the second-largest arms dealer in the world. After the U.S.A.! ALSO the biggest dealer of drugs!
We, like many countries bomb women and kids - indeed acts of terrorism! If not, explain it to them, please. Causing desolation of homes - tents now1 I could- as most of you know, write chapters of these truths. Yet, yes, and however, one still believes mankind will make it better... Love to see a realist thinking in that regards, that's for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Vaccine Concerns   Vaccine Concerns - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 11, 2020 1:30 pm

I have never said mankind will sort it out, nor ever thought it.

What I said in response to your comment ' no hope' I said there is hope, my hope is not in man but God. ( big difference me thinks).

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